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Old 10-13-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Boardman, OH
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Yes I do. I grew up driving on it, this was the 1970's. Even had a doctor in Kittanning and surgery at the hospital when I was 18. It's not "scary" (unless you scare easily). It's wasn't then, or now, that bad of a two lane road.

I still drive it occasionally.




And the above is the answer. There's not enough traffic to justify an up grade other than minor ones like adding a 3rd lane on the hills, which has already been done in a couple spots.
Exactly! I drive this stretch every now and then, as my gf lives in the Burgh and my family has a place in Cook Forest. There are plenty of climbing lanes along the hills that allow you safe places to pass and make it just as fast as taking 79 & 80. If they were to upgrade it at all, add a few more climbling lanes, straighten some curves and maybe bypass New Bethlehem and Hawthorn and you'd have a perfectly fine road to Brookville.
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Old 10-13-2014, 05:37 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Exactly! I drive this stretch every now and then, as my gf lives in the Burgh and my family has a place in Cook Forest. There are plenty of climbing lanes along the hills that allow you safe places to pass and make it just as fast as taking 79 & 80. If they were to upgrade it at all, add a few more climbling lanes, straighten some curves and maybe bypass New Bethlehem and Hawthorn and you'd have a perfectly fine road to Brookville.

Are you saying you don't get "scared" driving that road?

A NB/Hawthorne bypass won't happen now. Not enough traffic to justify it or easy way to do it.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Boardman, OH
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Are you saying you don't get "scared" driving that road?

A NB/Hawthorne bypass won't happen now. Not enough traffic to justify it or easy way to do it.
No, I don't get scared, lol! Now granted most of my experience along that stretch is during the weekends, but I'd worry more about deer out there than traffic.
As for my bypass comment, I was saying if they wanted to expand the road, thats all they would need to do, as far as an offline upgrade, it will never have to be a full fledged expressway or even 4 lanes the entire way. North of Hawthorn, the road is about as straight and flat as you'll find in that part of PA.
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:32 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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No, I don't get scared, lol!
What's with the "LOL!"? I've had several close calls on Route 28 with oncoming trucks being over the double-yellow line as they're coming around bends in the road at 55 miles per hour. It IS a terrifying drive sometimes. Then again, though, the people on here seem to think U.S. Route 22 between Pittsburgh and Hollidaysburg is built to Interstate standards with its zillions of non-synchronized traffic lights, speed traps, and bizarre 35-mile-per hour zones for no reason other than small-town revenue generation, so who needs an upgraded Route 28?!
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:28 AM
 
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Then again, though, the people on here seem to think U.S. Route 22 between Pittsburgh and Hollidaysburg is built to Interstate standards with its zillions of non-synchronized traffic lights, speed traps, and bizarre 35-mile-per hour zones for no reason other than small-town revenue generation, so who needs an upgraded Route 28?!
Slurms said it's a "decent" alternative, which it is. It's not perfect and no one said it's even close to interstate standards.

Pull out a map and follow this route and highlight all the roads that say "old 22" and "old Wm Penn Highway" and take THAT route one day. Then you will appreciate the work that went into the current configuration that truly does make it a decent alternative.
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Boardman, OH
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What's with the "LOL!"? I've had several close calls on Route 28 with oncoming trucks being over the double-yellow line as they're coming around bends in the road at 55 miles per hour. It IS a terrifying drive sometimes. Then again, though, the people on here seem to think U.S. Route 22 between Pittsburgh and Hollidaysburg is built to Interstate standards with its zillions of non-synchronized traffic lights, speed traps, and bizarre 35-mile-per hour zones for no reason other than small-town revenue generation, so who needs an upgraded Route 28?!
28 up there isn't perfect, and I'm not saying don't upgrade it in places, but does it need to be Interstate standard? Probably not.
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:43 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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28 up there isn't perfect, and I'm not saying don't upgrade it in places, but does it need to be Interstate standard? Probably not.
Considering Rt. 28 isn't even a two lane highway to the Waterworks, which is in the city limits, I think we can forget about making 28 two lanes all the way to Rt. 80. Goodness!
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Old 11-17-2014, 10:56 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Gov. Corbett to mark completion of Route 28 project - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Well, at least the road is about complete! Thank you Corbett for putting money in infrastructure and doing a better job in balancing the budget!
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Old 11-17-2014, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Lawrenceville
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I'm a little excited to commute home today, I admit.

Not that the changes to 28 will make getting between it and 279 less of a nightmare, but still...
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Old 11-17-2014, 03:40 PM
 
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79 offers a connection to 80, Erie, and Buffalo/Canada. 28 would offer the connection to 80 but little else. The new 22/99 serves as a decent alternative to those heading east on 80 from Pittsburgh. 28 as a limited access highway to 80 would be nice but I think the environmental impact outweighs the benefit.
That won't help the Allegheny valley economically. And what environmental impact?
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