Wilkinsburg and Bellevue are no longer dry towns (Pittsburgh, Plum: live, restaurants)

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by gg

Will this mean the end of BYOB on Braddock Ave in Regent Square on the Wilkinsburg side of the road? You would think most of those restaurants will want to grab a cheap liquor license. They are pretty cheap these days because of the MASSIVE taxes on booze in our area, so the little shot and beer places all closed up and the poorer people have no where to drink except at home now. Anyway, I think the BYOB will be gone in a few years.

No part of Regent Square's business district is in Wilkinsburg. There are a few houses which from on S Braddock which are in Wilkinsburg, but by the time you get to Concept Art Gallery/Regent Square Theatre, you're in Edgewood. The whole "dry" side of the S Braddock business district is in Edgewood.

As to why Edgewood is still a dry town, I haven't a clue. Hopefully they'll take the hint from Bellvue and Wilkinsburg and get with the times.

Looking on the map here, it looks like besides Edgewood, the only dry municipalities left in the county are Forest Hills, Ingram, Ben Avon, and Bradford Woods. AFAIK none of these municipalities have business districts, so I could see those laws remaining on the books for quite awhile yet.

[doo dah]

Originally Posted by SuburbanPioneer

What are you talking about? We are all house-poor and spending miserable hours sitting in traffic every day. Why would anyone want us driving even further for some unlimited soup, salad and breadsticks?

That's exactly what I mean.

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by eschaton

No part of Regent Square's business district is in Wilkinsburg. There are a few houses which from on S Braddock which are in Wilkinsburg, but by the time you get to Concept Art Gallery/Regent Square Theatre, you're in Edgewood. The whole "dry" side of the S Braddock business district is in Edgewood.

As to why Edgewood is still a dry town, I haven't a clue. Hopefully they'll take the hint from Bellvue and Wilkinsburg and get with the times.

Looking on the map here, it looks like besides Edgewood, the only dry municipalities left in the county are Forest Hills, Ingram, Ben Avon, and Bradford Woods. AFAIK none of these municipalities have business districts, so I could see those laws remaining on the books for quite awhile yet.

Forest Hills has a business district---albeit a crappy one.

[sealie]

Lots of little pizza and burger joints down Ardmore Blvd in Forest Hills, I had no idea you couldn't get a beer there.

Also:
Regent Square Civic Association - Street Map

[Merge]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

Ohio River Blvd. could be a good place for businessmen to put a gentlemen's club now.

Further, the new law opens up the Wilkinsburg area to court Applebee's, TGIF's and other national chains to get that area revitalized. The east end really doesn't have the chain restaurants that one would expect, this helps open the door.

Who is going to go to an Applebee's or TGIF in Wilkinsburg? Those places are part of the larger suburban phenomena. If the East End wanted more chain restaurants, then they'd already be there.

[Azeez]

Originally Posted by eschaton

No part of Regent Square's business district is in Wilkinsburg. There are a few houses which from on S Braddock which are in Wilkinsburg, but by the time you get to Concept Art Gallery/Regent Square Theatre, you're in Edgewood. The whole "dry" side of the S Braddock business district is in Edgewood.

As to why Edgewood is still a dry town, I haven't a clue. Hopefully they'll take the hint from Bellvue and Wilkinsburg and get with the times.

Looking on the map here, it looks like besides Edgewood, the only dry municipalities left in the county are Forest Hills, Ingram, Ben Avon, and Bradford Woods. AFAIK none of these municipalities have business districts, so I could see those laws remaining on the books for quite awhile yet.

Forest Hills hasn't been a dry town in 10 years.

[Der Schwabe]

Originally Posted by Merge

Who is going to go to an Applebee's or TGIF in Wilkinsburg? Those places are part of the larger suburban phenomena. If the East End wanted more chain restaurants, then they'd already be there.

Agreed, but the line of dialog was mostly a subtle trolling adventure. And anyway, there is already an Applebee's on South Braddock right across the Parkway from Regent Square.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by eschaton

Looking on the map here, it looks like besides Edgewood, the only dry municipalities left in the county are Forest Hills, Ingram, Ben Avon, and Bradford Woods. AFAIK none of these municipalities have business districts, so I could see those laws remaining on the books for quite awhile yet.

Part of the Crafton Ingram Shops are in Ingram Boro, certainly a business district for the community.


The Crafton Ingram bowling lanes are on the Ingram side next to where Kroger used to be, and they are the only bowling center in the area that doesn't serve alcohol. I don't understand why they chose to open there, the bowling lanes were built in Ingram after the town was already dry and they could have put the facility on the wet, Crafton side.

[airwave09]

I think that Wilkinsburg should aim higher than to try and place its revival hopes in the hands of chain restaurants.

It needs to differentiate itself from the eastern suburbs, where the pioneers it needs to venture into its new businesses are least likely to come from.

It should instead try and become an extension of the activity that is already moving up Penn Avenue from East Liberty and draw on all the new urban dwellers moving into apartments there that think Wilkinsburg is just another city neighborhood.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by airwave09

I think that Wilkinsburg should aim higher than to try and place its revival hopes in the hands of chain restaurants.

It needs to differentiate itself from the eastern suburbs, where the pioneers it needs to venture into its new businesses are least likely to come from.

It should instead try and become an extension of the activity that is already moving up Penn Avenue from East Liberty

What would you suggest the Wilkinsburg fathers *do* to actually realize this goal. What *can* they do to encourage private small potatoes investors to invest their money in retail on Penn Ave.?

BTW, many if not most of the businesses in East Liberty are chain restaurants and shopping experiences- not to mention the restaurants and businesses already investing money in Wilkinsburg