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Old 06-04-2015, 08:11 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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I wish Pittsburgh could emulate .001% of what they have in the Netherlands for infrastructure. I just think of all the debris, crime and crumbling infrastructure around here and wish we could just move a tiny bit in a progressive direction. There is no place in the US that could even come close to what they have in most Nordic/Scandinavian countries. I am a little jealous to say the least.

https://youtu.be/UuhLv1AN0bE
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Old 06-04-2015, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Lawrenceville
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It's like another world. Love it.
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Old 06-04-2015, 08:26 AM
 
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I wish Pittsburgh could emulate .001% of what they have in the Netherlands for infrastructure. I just think of all the debris, crime and crumbling infrastructure around here and wish we could just move a tiny bit in a progressive direction. There is no place in the US that could even come close to what they have in most Nordic/Scandinavian countries. I am a little jealous to say the least.

https://youtu.be/UuhLv1AN0bE
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think the biggest barrier to this is the people, not the gov't. It's a different culture over there that results in such nice, clean places.
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Old 06-04-2015, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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people would just ***** about taxes.
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:33 AM
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healthier lifestyle/attitude, people use their bodies for things other than holding down a couch.
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: suburbs
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Looks nice, but who would be using it here on such a large scale?

Also, what you see in a promotional video is not always what you get in reality. I've spent enough time in Europe to learn to appreciate what we have here.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:34 AM
 
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Since when did City Data PGH become a cycling haven? I'm loving these threads, guys.

This thing is amazing. I must agree with tclifton to an extent, though, there are definitely some very large cultural differences in play.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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Pittsburgh will never be a bicycle lovers paradise because of the hills. I would never ride a bike to work because I live near Mt. Washington and the hills are both physically intimidating and terrifying. I love biking on a flat surface and if we lived in one of the 85% of flat cities and grid like streets around the country I'm sure i'd be more open to it, but I feel like Pittsburgh is just not made for cycling and I'm ok with that... More power too you if you are a cyclist in the city but I dont' really think it's a realistic idea that the majority of Pittsburghers would or even should be biking to work... because the geography just isn't suited for it.

My two cents.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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Jrn14, check out airewave09's thread about Cyclocable implementation. It's sitting on the main page right next to this one, and it would be a great start to solving some of that problem.

And, yeah, you are 100% right. It is a hindrance to the average would-be cyclist.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Awkward Manor
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Pittsburgh will never be a bicycle lovers paradise because of the hills. I would never ride a bike to work because I live near Mt. Washington and the hills are both physically intimidating and terrifying. I love biking on a flat surface and if we lived in one of the 85% of flat cities and grid like streets around the country I'm sure i'd be more open to it, but I feel like Pittsburgh is just not made for cycling and I'm ok with that... More power too you if you are a cyclist in the city but I dont' really think it's a realistic idea that the majority of Pittsburghers would or even should be biking to work... because the geography just isn't suited for it.

My two cents.
What a strange thing to say. Why not leave it up to the person themselves?
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