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Old 07-26-2016, 11:48 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Didn't know that place was that bad. Geez, even worse than most all places in Philly.

Pittsburgh community ranks as second most violent PA city per capita | Local News - WTAE Home
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Old 07-26-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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There is not a lot of capita in Mt. Oliver. Small area of concentrated inner city poverty makes for a violent landscape. And with so few residents it doesn't take many bad actors to move the needle.
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Old 07-26-2016, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I don't get how that town is still able to function as its own (besides the schools) despite its hard times and being completely surrounded by the city.
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Old 07-26-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I don't get how that town is still able to function as its own (besides the schools) despite its hard times and being completely surrounded by the city.
I can say the same thing about zillions of municipalities in this county. Doesn't Haysville have like 50 residents, for example?

In my wettest of wet dreams (sorry for the visual!) the city annexes Wilkinsburg, Dormont, Millvale, Etna, Sharpsburg, Mt. Oliver, Bellevue, and Avalon. Maybe McKees Rocks, too, but that sort of comes as a package deal with Stowe Township, which covers a large square mileage area.
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Old 07-26-2016, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I can say the same thing about zillions of municipalities in this county. Doesn't Haysville have like 50 residents, for example?

In my wettest of wet dreams (sorry for the visual!) the city annexes Wilkinsburg, Dormont, Millvale, Etna, Sharpsburg, Mt. Oliver, Bellevue, and Avalon. Maybe McKees Rocks, too, but that sort of comes as a package deal with Stowe Township, which covers a large square mileage area.
Would never happen because people wouldn't want to give up the Fox Chapel or Shaler school districts for Pittsburgh.
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Old 07-27-2016, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Ideally, I'd also like to see many school districts that have multiple boroughs combine into a single borough that encompasses all of the ones in their school district but I know some would never go for that.
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Old 07-27-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Would never happen because people wouldn't want to give up the Fox Chapel or Shaler school districts for Pittsburgh.
Maybe a new model can be developed - smaller, neighborhood schools. The athletics and extracurriculars can be combined, though.
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Old 07-27-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Different state and 50 years ago, but when Toledo annexed 95% of Washington Township in the 1960s, they kept the school district intact. There's still a "Washington Local" school district within the city limits of Toledo (that also includes the 2 very small portions of Washington Township that remain). Washington Local then (and still today) is still a very large district (though it's enrollment numbers have dropped from 19K in the 1960s to 7K today).

I'd like to think if it could be done then even with such a large district, I'm sure it could be done today in terms of separating the school district. However, annexing a township is different than annexing a city or other incorporated place.

Maybe Pittsburgh starts with Reserve Township?
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