12-03-2019, 08:25 AM
Location: Pittsburgh
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Bell - not me, i would love to have him back.
I wouldn't want either of them. We don't need the diva types on a TEAM. Teams are better without the selfish players. Pittsburgh somehow is winning. Weak schedule, but we have a 4th string QB from training camp and a very hurt team from top to bottom and last game no Bouncy. Damn!
I like Pittsburgh and cheer them on especially without the idiots.
12-03-2019, 09:36 AM
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I wouldn't want either of them. We don't need the diva types on a TEAM. Teams are better without the selfish players. Pittsburgh somehow is winning. Weak schedule, but we have a 4th string QB from training camp and a very hurt team from top to bottom and last game no Bouncy. Damn!
Bell didn’t have a contract so he did nothing wrong.
AB is/was certainly a diva.
12-03-2019, 10:14 AM
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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Bell - not me, i would love to have him back.
I think it has become buyer beware for big name running backs in the NFL. I'm glad the Steelers did not re-sign Bell for the money he wanted and I'm not sure running backs are worth the long term money these days. Most of the running backs who recently signed big contracts are now average to bad, shortly after getting paid.
1) Leveon Bell- Average at best now and will be another year older after this wasted season
2) Ezekiel Elliott- Currently having his worst season, despite playing for a team with a strong offensive line
3) Todd Gurley- Currently have his worst season ever, despite finally being healthy again
4) Devonta Freeman- Playing like garbage and barely averaging above 3 yards a carry. Definitely his worst season ever
5) David Johnson- Not only is he having his worst season ever, but he has been demoted to third string
12-03-2019, 10:37 AM
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I think it has become buyer beware for big name running backs in the NFL. I'm glad the Steelers did not re-sign Bell for the money he wanted and I'm not sure running backs are worth the long term money these days. Most of the running backs who recently signed big contracts are now average to bad, shortly after getting paid.
Bell is playing for the Jets and still has almost 1000 all purpose yards. Playing for the Stiller’s he’d have much better numbers, which is why they tried to get him back.
Freeman is playing for Atlanta and still has 3.4 ypc.
Both horrible teams.
Elliott is 6th in the league in rushing, only 185 yards off the league lead, and 5th in all purpose yards.
Gurley is averaging 4.2 ypc, just not getting the carries, and Johnson is averaging 4 yards per carry.
12-03-2019, 06:44 PM
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Bell didn’t have a contract so he did nothing wrong.
Thank you! I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. The franchise tag is awful for running backs. He played under it once, and he told them he wouldn't play under it again, and he kept his word. AB had a contract, and wanted to get out from it. Screw him, he's a bum!
12-03-2019, 06:46 PM
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Except for new england, their showing was pretty respectable vs. seattle, sf, and baltimore - all tough teams. of course, a loss is a loss, but its not like they've been at cininatti's level of play for those games.
Yeah, they played all three of those teams down to the wire, and only had Ben for one half. It was really a front loaded schedule.
12-03-2019, 06:49 PM
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Thank you! I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. The franchise tag is awful for running backs. He played under it once, and he told them he wouldn't play under it again, and he kept his word. AB had a contract, and wanted to get out from it. Screw him, he's a bum!
It’s hard for them to understand because they don’t know how the NFL works, Bell hurt their feelings, and because he makes a lot of money and they think he should play no matter what.
Bingo
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12-03-2019, 07:03 PM
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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Thank you! I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. The franchise tag is awful for running backs. He played under it once, and he told them he wouldn't play under it again, and he kept his word. AB had a contract, and wanted to get out from it. Screw him, he's a bum!
I agree with your logic here, but Bell was offered a contract by the Steelers and he turned it down. In fact, Bell was offered a $70 million contract over 5 years with with $33 million in guaranteed money over the first 2 years by the Steelers. Bell turned this deal down because he thought he could get more guaranteed money and he wanted approximately $17 million per year salary. Turns out Bell was wrong and he only got a $52.5 million 4 year contract with the Jets that included $25 million in guaranteed money. Either way you look at it Bell lost at least $10 million+ with Jet's contract and sat out a year missing out on significant money. I have no ill will toward Bell, but I'm glad the Steelers didn't re-sign him.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/l...-the-steelers/
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/l...ting-out-2018/
12-03-2019, 07:12 PM
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I agree with your logic here, but Bell was offered a contract by the Steelers and he turned it down. In fact, Bell was offered a $70 million contract over 5 years with with $33 million in guaranteed money over the first 2 years by the Steelers. Bell turned this deal down because he thought he could get more guaranteed money and he wanted approximately $17 million per year salary. Turns out Bell was wrong and he only got a $52.5 million 4 year contract with the Jets that included $25 million in guaranteed money. Either way you look at it Bell lost at least $10 million+ with Jet's contract and sat out a year missing out on significant money. I have no ill will toward Bell, but I'm glad the Steelers didn't re-sign him.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/l...-the-steelers/
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/l...ting-out-2018/
https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/how-jet...eal/305199104/
Had the Stiller’s not franchise tagged him a second time he may have signed and we’d have a great back and running game. Also, the guaranteed money potential is more with the Jets.
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12-03-2019, 07:28 PM
Location: Pittsburgh
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I have no ill will toward Bell, but I'm glad the Steelers didn't re-sign him.
Agreed. He isn't worth it at all. Steelers gave him a great deal and he wanted to leave. He will deal with his decision for the rest of his life as he will fad into nothing. He needs a good line in front of him to be good. You need a team on your side to be great. He is just okay without one. He chose himself above the team and usually you pay a price for that ego crap.
So glad he is gone and will never return. Get Ben back and this team might make a real run.
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People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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