Federal troops in Pittsburgh? (York, Washington: mall, Walmart, assault)

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by PghSportsGuy420

So what you're saying here is that you think it's fine for federal DHS troops with no badges or other identification to force peaceful protestors into unmarked cars and abduct them because someone broke a window or spray painted a monument?

That's what's happening in Portland.

I don’t care where it’s happening. When you’re breaking windows and spray painting property that isn’t yours, you’re not being peaceful.

I hope they continue to get the criminals off the streets. They’ve got a lot of cleaning up to do there.

[PghSportsGuy420]

Originally Posted by erieguy

When you’re breaking windows and spray painting property that isn’t yours, you’re not being peaceful.

I hope they continue to get the criminals off the streets. They’ve got a lot of cleaning up to do there.

You didn't answer my question.

The people getting picked up aren't the ones breaking the windows. They're random protestors.

You're completely fine with random protestors getting abducted off the streets because someone broke a window?

We can go back and forth on this all evening, but Americans have a constitutionally guaranteed right to protest and collective punishment is not a legal principle in the United States.

The feds do not get to pick up and terrorize random protestors under the justification that someone broke a window or spray painted a wall somewhere. Not under the laws of our nation, anyway.

When you're okay with someone else's liberties being taken away like that, you're saying that it's okay for the government to do the same thing to you.

Like Ben Franklin said, those who give up essential liberty (like that to assemble and protest) in return for a little freedom (from graffiti) deserve neither liberty nor safety.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by PghSportsGuy420

You didn't answer my question.

The people getting picked up aren't the ones breaking the windows. They're random protestors.

You're completely fine with random protestors getting abducted off the streets because someone broke a window?

You sure do move the goalposts. You’re first complaining because people breaking windows and spray painting property are getting arrested by the feds, and now you’re talking about people not breaking laws getting picked up by the feds.

[PghSportsGuy420]

Originally Posted by erieguy

You sure do move the goalposts. You’re first complaining because people breaking windows and spray painting property are getting arrested by the feds, and now you’re talking about people not breaking laws getting picked up by the feds.

Pay attention and read the articles I've been linking all day. The feds are just abducting random protestors off the street. They are not and have not been singling out people who have been committing violence and that has been mentioned in every single news report I've posted here about it.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by PghSportsGuy420

Pay attention and read the articles I've been linking all day. The feds are just abducting random protestors off the street. They are not and have not been singling out people who have been committing violence and that has been mentioned in every single news report I've posted here about it.

You’ve been complaining about feds picking up people for spray painting and breaking windows rather than those crimes being handled by local authorities in most every post you’ve made. You should really try to get your stories straight rather than moving goalposts, and you’d have more credibility in what you’re arguing.

[PghSportsGuy420]

Originally Posted by erieguy

You’ve been complaining about feds picking up people for spray painting and breaking windows rather than those crimes being handled by local authorities in most every post you’ve made. You should really try to get your stories straight rather than moving goalposts, and you’d have more credibility in what you’re arguing.

The NPR, NYT, and WaPo stories I posted all mentioned that random protestors were being abducted. You did read them, right? So you knew that?

Collective punishment is not a valid principle in American jurisprudence.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by PghSportsGuy420

The NPR, NYT, and WaPo stories I posted all mentioned that random protestors were being abducted. You did read them, right? So you knew that?

Collective punishment is not a valid principle in American jurisprudence.

Then why have you constantly complained about feds picking up criminals who are spray painting property and breaking windows and insisting that local police should be handling those crimes?

[USC1986]

Originally Posted by PghSportsGuy420

The NPR, NYT, and WaPo stories I posted all mentioned that random protestors were being abducted. You did read them, right? So you knew that?

Collective punishment is not a valid principle in American jurisprudence.

NPR, NYT and WaPo are FAR from unbiased sources, and if you think they are, you are engaging in self delusion. Ad CNN and MSNBC in the fetid stew as well.

[PghSportsGuy420]

Originally Posted by USC1986

NPR, NYT and WaPo are FAR from unbiased sources, and if you think they are, you are engaging in self delusion. Ad CNN and MSNBC in the fetid stew as well.

Yes, there are no unbiased sources in all of journalism, what's your point?

If multiple sources report consistent stories, the stories are likely to be true.

[svband76]

Originally Posted by USC1986

NPR, NYT and WaPo are FAR from unbiased sources, and if you think they are, you are engaging in self delusion. Ad CNN and MSNBC in the fetid stew as well.

True. There a very very few sources today that aren't unbiased. TV too. CBS Sunday Morning had this female reporter with an angry agenda out to make a name for herself who went ape sh*t on Lindsey Graham last month, who was just there to discuss the state of politics in Washington. I'm no fan of his but I felt bad for him being ambushed by this biased reporter. What happened to just reporting the news? It's gotten so bad.