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Old 07-10-2022, 08:57 AM
 
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more anti-vax disinformation from the far-right UK conspiracy rag daily mail

Healthy Michigan boy, 13, dies in his sleep three days after receiving his second dose of Pfizer Covid vaccine as CDC launches investigation

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-vaccine.html

- Jacob Clynick received his second dose of the vaccine in Zilwaukee on June 13
- Two days later, he complained of stomach ache and went to bed where he died
- An autopsy was performed but cause of death has yet to be determined
- CDC has launched an investigation into any link between his death and vaccine
- Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have been found to cause myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart, in extremely rare cases, most of which are not severe

"'The investigation as to whether there is a correlation between his death and vaccination is now at the federal level with CDC,' the Saginaw County Health Department Medical Director said in a statement to the Free Press."

even if there is a correlation - correlation does not prove causation

why is the CDC wasting their time with this tinfoil hat nonsense?
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Old 07-10-2022, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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put it this way - the covid "vaccines" have not been approved - they are still under emergency use authorization - they may be approved later
Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are now fully approved, Pfizer for over 16 and Moderna for over 18.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...%20and%20older.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...2010%2C%202021.

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who's excited to get their very first monkeypox vaccine

Three cases of monkeypox confirmed in Allegheny County

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/he...s/202206300143

"The Allegheny County Health Department on Friday announced that a third case of monkeypox has been confirmed in the county.

The announcement came a day after the second case of the viral illness was confirmed in Pittsburgh on Thursday. The region’s first documented case, found in someone who lived outside of the city, was found earlier this week.

Dr. Lane said more monkeypox cases in Allegheny County should be expected.

But according to Dr. Lane, Pennsylvanians may be short on doses of Jynneos, a vaccine for monkeypox, because the state was designated by the federal government as a second-tier priority in its rollout."
There will be no mass vaccination for monkeypox. It is a miserable disease with a significant mortality rate. Contacts, including healthcare workers and lab workers, will be offered the vaccine.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/...-outbreak.html
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Old 07-10-2022, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Originally Posted by BUILD PENN SQUARE View Post
more anti-vax disinformation from the far-right UK conspiracy rag daily mail

Healthy Michigan boy, 13, dies in his sleep three days after receiving his second dose of Pfizer Covid vaccine as CDC launches investigation

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-vaccine.html

- Jacob Clynick received his second dose of the vaccine in Zilwaukee on June 13
- Two days later, he complained of stomach ache and went to bed where he died
- An autopsy was performed but cause of death has yet to be determined
- CDC has launched an investigation into any link between his death and vaccine
- Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have been found to cause myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart, in extremely rare cases, most of which are not severe

"'The investigation as to whether there is a correlation between his death and vaccination is now at the federal level with CDC,' the Saginaw County Health Department Medical Director said in a statement to the Free Press."

even if there is a correlation - correlation does not prove causation

why is the CDC wasting their time with this tinfoil hat nonsense?
Consequences of an experimental shot.

https://twitter.com/budsma2021/statu...6ZRuuw5R-2eWdQ

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...-knee-n1610725
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Old 07-11-2022, 06:03 AM
 
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Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are now fully approved, Pfizer for over 16 and Moderna for over 18.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...%20and%20older.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...2010%2C%202021.
let's read what it says here

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...%20and%20older

On January 31, 2022, the FDA announced the second approval of a COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Spikevax, for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 18 years of age and older.

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is authorized for emergency use as a:

Two-dose primary series for individuals 6 months of age and older.
Third primary series dose for individuals 6 months of age and older who have been determined to have certain kinds of immunocompromise.
First booster dose for individuals 18 years of age and older at least five months after completing a primary series of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine or Spikevax vaccine.
First booster dose for individuals 18 years of age and older who have completed primary vaccination with another authorized or approved COVID-19 vaccine. The dosing interval for this first booster dose is the same as that authorized for a booster dose of the vaccine used for primary vaccination.
Second booster dose for individuals 50 years of age and older at least four months after receipt of a first booster dose of any authorized or approved COVID-19 vaccine.
Second booster dose for individuals 18 years of age and older with certain kinds of immunocompromise at least four months after receipt of a first booster dose of any authorized or approved COVID-19 vaccine.
On February 11, 2022, in consultation with FDA, CDC issued emergency use instructions to provide information about the primary, additional, and booster doses of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines in certain individuals.

and here

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...2010%2C%202021

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir’-na-tee), for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older. The vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization (EUA), including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals.

“The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic. While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident that this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product,” said Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, M.D. “While millions of people have already safely received COVID-19 vaccines, we recognize that for some, the FDA approval of a vaccine may now instill additional confidence to get vaccinated. Today’s milestone puts us one step closer to altering the course of this pandemic in the U.S.”

Since Dec. 11, 2020, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has been available under EUA in individuals 16 years of age and older, and the authorization was expanded to include those 12 through 15 years of age on May 10, 2021. EUAs can be used by the FDA during public health emergencies to provide access to medical products that may be effective in preventing, diagnosing, or treating a disease, provided that the FDA determines that the known and potential benefits of a product, when used to prevent, diagnose, or treat the disease, outweigh the known and potential risks of the product.

why does the phrase "emergency us authorization" continue to appear in these press releases?

if the intention is to announce that the covid vaccines have be fully approved and all the clinical trials have been completed, then why not just drop the phrase entirely?


Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

https://historyofvaccines.org/vaccin...and-regulation

"EDITOR'S NOTE (7 May 2022): Many anti-vaccine people and organizations are not presenting the information in this article in full context. The article below mostly covers vaccines before the current COVID-19 pandemic. Please see the section on the COVID-19 pandemic and Operation Warp Speed for information on the COVID-19 vaccines.

Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years, and involves a combination of public and private involvement.

The current system for developing, testing, and regulating vaccines developed during the 20th century, as the groups involved standardized their procedures and regulations.

This stage [Exploratory Stage] involves basic laboratory research and often lasts 2-4 years.

The pre-clinical stages often last 1-2 years and usually involve researchers in private industry.

Phase III Vaccine Trials

Successful Phase II candidate vaccines move on to larger trials, involving thousands to tens of thousands of people. These Phase III tests are randomized and double blind, and involve the experimental vaccine being tested against a placebo (the placebo may be a saline solution, a vaccine for another disease, or some other substance).

One Phase III goal is to assess vaccine safety in a large group of people. Certain rare side effects might not surface in the smaller groups of subjects tested in earlier phases. For example, suppose that an adverse event related to a candidate vaccine could occur in 1 of every 10,000 people. To detect a significant difference for a low-frequency event, the trial would have to include 60,000 subjects, half of them in the control, or no vaccine, group (Plotkin SA et al. Vaccines, 5th ed. Philadelphia: Saunders, 2008).

Vaccine efficacy is also tested. These factors might include 1) Does the candidate vaccine prevent disease? 2) Does it prevent infection with the pathogen? 3) Does it lead to the production of antibodies or other types of immune responses related to the pathogen?"

does the covid vaccine prevent you from getting covid? no

has the covid vaccine gone through years of rigorous testing? no

do they know all the potential side effects of the vaccine? no

are most people unable to think critically based on the scientific results of the renowned milgram experiment? yes

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Old 07-11-2022, 06:16 AM
 
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let's read this article from nih.gov

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9062939/

COVID UPDATE: What is the truth?

"The COVID-19 pandemic is one of the most manipulated infectious disease events in history, characterized by official lies in an unending stream lead by government bureaucracies, medical associations, medical boards, the media, and international agencies.[3,6,57] We have witnessed a long list of unprecedented intrusions into medical practice, including attacks on medical experts, destruction of medical careers among doctors refusing to participate in killing their patients and a massive regimentation of health care, led by non-qualified individuals with enormous wealth, power and influence.

For the first time in American history a president, governors, mayors, hospital administrators and federal bureaucrats are determining medical treatments based not on accurate scientifically based or even experience based information, but rather to force the acceptance of special forms of care and “prevention”—including remdesivir, use of respirators and ultimately a series of essentially untested messenger RNA vaccines. For the first time in history medical treatment, protocols are not being formulated based on the experience of the physicians treating the largest number of patients successfully, but rather individuals and bureaucracies that have never treated a single patient—including Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, EcoHealth Alliance, the CDC, WHO, state public health officers and hospital administrators.[23,38]

The media (TV, newspapers, magazines, etc), medical societies, state medical boards and the owners of social media have appointed themselves to be the sole source of information concerning this so-called “pandemic”. Websites have been removed, highly credentialed and experienced clinical doctors and scientific experts in the field of infectious diseases have been demonized, careers have been destroyed and all dissenting information has been labeled “misinformation” and “dangerous lies”, even when sourced from top experts in the fields of virology, infectious diseases, pulmonary critical care, and epidemiology. These blackouts of truth occur even when this information is backed by extensive scientific citations from some of the most qualified medical specialists in the world.[23] Incredibly, even individuals, such as Dr. Michael Yeadon, a retired ex-Chief Scientist, and vice-president for the science division of Pfizer Pharmaceutical company in the UK, who charged the company with making an extremely dangerous vaccine, is ignored and demonized. Further, he, along with other highly qualified scientists have stated that no one should take this vaccine."
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Old 07-11-2022, 06:27 AM
 
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If anyone here would be likely to have trouble with a harmful vaccine, it would be me. I even went through radiation treatment right after getting one. Not to mention surgery and chemo right in the middle of them. I'm still here. My heart is still pumping strong, good lungs, Yada Yada.

And no it didn't cause the cancer.

In my opinion, the vaccine is simply ineffective even within a single wave of the virus. They failed because Covid evolves too fast (as do all coronaviruses) and they can't keep up with it.
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Old 07-11-2022, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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let's read what it says here

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...%20and%20older

On January 31, 2022, the FDA announced the second approval of a COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Spikevax, for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 18 years of age and older.

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is authorized for emergency use as a:

Two-dose primary series for individuals 6 months of age and older.
Third primary series dose for individuals 6 months of age and older who have been determined to have certain kinds of immunocompromise.
First booster dose for individuals 18 years of age and older at least five months after completing a primary series of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine or Spikevax vaccine.
First booster dose for individuals 18 years of age and older who have completed primary vaccination with another authorized or approved COVID-19 vaccine. The dosing interval for this first booster dose is the same as that authorized for a booster dose of the vaccine used for primary vaccination.
Second booster dose for individuals 50 years of age and older at least four months after receipt of a first booster dose of any authorized or approved COVID-19 vaccine.
Second booster dose for individuals 18 years of age and older with certain kinds of immunocompromise at least four months after receipt of a first booster dose of any authorized or approved COVID-19 vaccine.
On February 11, 2022, in consultation with FDA, CDC issued emergency use instructions to provide information about the primary, additional, and booster doses of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines in certain individuals.

and here

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...2010%2C%202021

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir’-na-tee), for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older. The vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization (EUA), including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals.

“The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic. While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident that this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product,” said Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, M.D. “While millions of people have already safely received COVID-19 vaccines, we recognize that for some, the FDA approval of a vaccine may now instill additional confidence to get vaccinated. Today’s milestone puts us one step closer to altering the course of this pandemic in the U.S.”

Since Dec. 11, 2020, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has been available under EUA in individuals 16 years of age and older, and the authorization was expanded to include those 12 through 15 years of age on May 10, 2021. EUAs can be used by the FDA during public health emergencies to provide access to medical products that may be effective in preventing, diagnosing, or treating a disease, provided that the FDA determines that the known and potential benefits of a product, when used to prevent, diagnose, or treat the disease, outweigh the known and potential risks of the product.

why does the phrase "emergency us authorization" continue to appear in these press releases?

if the intention is to announce that the covid vaccines have be fully approved and all the clinical trials have been completed, then why not just drop the phrase entirely?


Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

https://historyofvaccines.org/vaccin...and-regulation

"EDITOR'S NOTE (7 May 2022): Many anti-vaccine people and organizations are not presenting the information in this article in full context. The article below mostly covers vaccines before the current COVID-19 pandemic. Please see the section on the COVID-19 pandemic and Operation Warp Speed for information on the COVID-19 vaccines.

Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years, and involves a combination of public and private involvement.

The current system for developing, testing, and regulating vaccines developed during the 20th century, as the groups involved standardized their procedures and regulations.

This stage [Exploratory Stage] involves basic laboratory research and often lasts 2-4 years.

The pre-clinical stages often last 1-2 years and usually involve researchers in private industry.

Phase III Vaccine Trials

Successful Phase II candidate vaccines move on to larger trials, involving thousands to tens of thousands of people. These Phase III tests are randomized and double blind, and involve the experimental vaccine being tested against a placebo (the placebo may be a saline solution, a vaccine for another disease, or some other substance).

One Phase III goal is to assess vaccine safety in a large group of people. Certain rare side effects might not surface in the smaller groups of subjects tested in earlier phases. For example, suppose that an adverse event related to a candidate vaccine could occur in 1 of every 10,000 people. To detect a significant difference for a low-frequency event, the trial would have to include 60,000 subjects, half of them in the control, or no vaccine, group (Plotkin SA et al. Vaccines, 5th ed. Philadelphia: Saunders, 2008).

Vaccine efficacy is also tested. These factors might include 1) Does the candidate vaccine prevent disease? 2) Does it prevent infection with the pathogen? 3) Does it lead to the production of antibodies or other types of immune responses related to the pathogen?"

does the covid vaccine prevent you from getting covid? no

has the covid vaccine gone through years of rigorous testing? no

do they know all the potential side effects of the vaccine? no

are most people unable to think critically based on the scientific results of the renowned milgram experiment? yes
As I said, the Pfizer vaccine is fully authorized for over age 16 and the Moderna vaccine for over 18. That is confirmed in your quote.

The vaccines still reduce the risk of infection, though less effectively against newer variants. They continue to significantly decrease severe illness, hospitalization, and death.

The mRNA vaccines had undergone years of development before covid arrived, and now over 352 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine and almost 225 million doses of the Moderna have been administered in the US alone. That has generated a large amount of safety information.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...us-by-company/

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let's read this article from nih.gov

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9062939/

COVID UPDATE: What is the truth?

"The COVID-19 pandemic is one of the most manipulated infectious disease events in history, characterized by official lies in an unending stream lead by government bureaucracies, medical associations, medical boards, the media, and international agencies.[3,6,57] We have witnessed a long list of unprecedented intrusions into medical practice, including attacks on medical experts, destruction of medical careers among doctors refusing to participate in killing their patients and a massive regimentation of health care, led by non-qualified individuals with enormous wealth, power and influence.

For the first time in American history a president, governors, mayors, hospital administrators and federal bureaucrats are determining medical treatments based not on accurate scientifically based or even experience based information, but rather to force the acceptance of special forms of care and “prevention”—including remdesivir, use of respirators and ultimately a series of essentially untested messenger RNA vaccines. For the first time in history medical treatment, protocols are not being formulated based on the experience of the physicians treating the largest number of patients successfully, but rather individuals and bureaucracies that have never treated a single patient—including Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, EcoHealth Alliance, the CDC, WHO, state public health officers and hospital administrators.[23,38]

The media (TV, newspapers, magazines, etc), medical societies, state medical boards and the owners of social media have appointed themselves to be the sole source of information concerning this so-called “pandemic”. Websites have been removed, highly credentialed and experienced clinical doctors and scientific experts in the field of infectious diseases have been demonized, careers have been destroyed and all dissenting information has been labeled “misinformation” and “dangerous lies”, even when sourced from top experts in the fields of virology, infectious diseases, pulmonary critical care, and epidemiology. These blackouts of truth occur even when this information is backed by extensive scientific citations from some of the most qualified medical specialists in the world.[23] Incredibly, even individuals, such as Dr. Michael Yeadon, a retired ex-Chief Scientist, and vice-president for the science division of Pfizer Pharmaceutical company in the UK, who charged the company with making an extremely dangerous vaccine, is ignored and demonized. Further, he, along with other highly qualified scientists have stated that no one should take this vaccine."
The article is not from NIH. NIH Just runs PubMed.

That is an opinion piece by noted antivaccine quack Russell Blaylock. Is there any reason you failed to note his authorship in your post?

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/g...sell-blaylock/

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special...clusives/98940
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Old 07-11-2022, 02:21 PM
 
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That is an opinion piece by noted antivaccine quack Russell Blaylock. Is there any reason you failed to note his authorship in your post?
"antivaccine quack"

"tinfoil hat nut"

"right-wing conspiracy theorist"

gotta know these terms if you're gonna win an argument!

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The article is not from NIH. NIH Just runs PubMed.
so there's an "antivaccine quack" publishing antivaccine quack articles that are found on pubmed which is run by NIH

the article can be found on a website with an NIH.gov address but the article is technically "not from NIH"

gotta love that twisted liberal logic!
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Old 07-11-2022, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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"antivaccine quack"

"tinfoil hat nut"

"right-wing conspiracy theorist"

gotta know these terms if you're gonna win an argument!



so there's an "antivaccine quack" publishing antivaccine quack articles that are found on pubmed which is run by NIH

the article can be found on a website with an NIH.gov address but the article is technically "not from NIH"

gotta love that twisted liberal logic!
Known anti-vaxer who espouses conspiracy theories. Yep.

PubMed just indexes articles. It does not provide content.
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