Downtown Butler moves toward revitalization (Pittsburgh, Washington: transportation, car, reservation)

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by CortlandGirl79

Who knows Youngstown could get in your blood...............

Yinz Pittsburghers unite! We have someone trying to poach one of our scarce as hen's teeth young preservationists! She needs stopped!

[PreservationPioneer]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

Yinz Pittsburghers unite! We have someone trying to poach one of our scarce as hen's teeth young preservationists! She needs stopped!

Hahah, don't worry! I'm just on the verge of possibly buying a Victorian mansion in McKees Rocks, and I probably need my head examined for doing this, so it looks like I will be here forever!

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by CortlandGirl79

SCR, thanks for your kind words. I'm glad there are others in my generation that love the character of our old cities and homes. You'll never see me move to the soulless south (no i'm not talking about old southern towns, i'm talking about nasty southern sprawl, you know, kind of like the suburbs of Columbus, Ohio lol).

I personally think that the trend of our nation's youth reclaiming our long-neglected urban centers will be sustainable and is not just a "fluke". I look at places like Youngstown, for example, and I don't think "Ewwww". I think to myself "Someone's great-great-grandparents built these homes and these communities with great dreams and visions for a prosperous future. What a shame to let those visions meet an untimely demise through abandonment." People think I find places like Cranberry Township, Wexford, most (not all) of NoVA outside the Beltway, etc. to be so abhorrent because I'm a snob. Not at all. I just feel as if it's ecologically and socially irresponsible to be developing newer exurbs when the hopes and dreams of prior generations are decaying to the core in our nation's cities and inner suburbs.

[Hopes]

I'm so sorry you lost your childhood friend, CortlandGirl.

[Craziaskowboi]

Dam.

[BrianTH]

I agree this is a terrible loss, obviously on a human level but also on a policy level, because I am also convinced the corridor between Pittsburgh and Youngstown is destined to become very important in the future (it already is to some extent). So hopefully the foundation she has laid will be built on further by others.

[CortlandGirl79]

Thanks guys. Brian, I know we've talked about this before and even though many people in Pittsburgh have stated on this board that they should associate themselves more w/the northeast than northeast Ohio I think they are blinded by their bias against the midwest. Attempts at regionalization are the way to go. We need to share resources and market the skills of our entire region. Cleveland Plus (http://www.clevelandplus.com/indexcz.asp - broken link)

The metropolitan statistical areas of Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Akron, Canton, Steubenville, Weirton and Youngtown, along with adjacent counties, add up to a population of more than 6 million and a labor force of more than 4 million. They make up a combined market that many local businesses already treat as a single region when looking to the future.

Nowhere is the connection between the two regions stronger than in the labor market. The interconnected Cleve-burgh workforces have long had a symbiotic relationship, and it's been growing over time. Both regions have long obsessed over migration and job growth while both have depended on each other for workers.

Welcome to Cleveburgh! Pittsburghers need to rethink their place in the world

[BrianTH]

Personally, I see no reason to choose just one. We can be all of Pittsland, Washburgh, Phitty (OK, that last might not be a good moniker), and more.

And whether or not Pittsburgh and Cleveland ever grow into each other enough to be treated as a CSA (as in Washington and Baltimore), I have no doubt that Youngstown specifically will be considered at least a partial member of our region in the future, and in fact it already has a lot of economic and cultural overlap with Pittsburgh.

[SammyKhalifa]

Originally Posted by BrianTH

Personally, I see no reason to choose just one. We can be all of Pittsland, Washburgh, Phitty (OK, that last might not be a good moniker), and more.

And whether or not Pittsburgh and Cleveland ever grow into each other enough to be treated as a CSA (as in Washington and Baltimore), I have no doubt that Youngstown specifically will be considered at least a partial member of our region in the future, and in fact it already has a lot of economic and cultural overlap with Pittsburgh.

Yeah, Youngstown is basically the "Front Line" between Pittsburgh and Cleveland. I'm definitely not the first one to say that, but I'm using the very scientific process of judging what city's sports memorabilia I see there. I guess it to be 50-50.

[BrianTH]

It is our manifest destiny to possess the whole of Youngstown!