When did Western PA become so GOP friendly, and why? (Pittsburgh: unemployment, taxes)

[Love2Golf09]

Originally Posted by enemy country

pretty sure OBAMA won there! OH Im sorry someone forgot to tell you City Data is NATIONAL

What are you doing? Why are you making a fool of yourself like this? No one is disputing that he won in Pittsburgh. The OP specifically says OUTSIDE of Allegheny Co. And, yes, CD is national, but this is the pittsburgh forum. Again, what are you doing???

[Tiger Beer]

Originally Posted by Fiddlehead

And trust me, you will not escape neocons by leaving W. PA.

So true...from reading this forum and just general data on Pittsburgh, it seems somewhat of a sancuary of avoiding neo-cons.

When you view other forums, there are people organizing tea parties to just all out vicious hatred for Obama, etc. The sense the world is going to end because Obama is in, etc.

Personally, I feel that Pittsburgh is more in the 'happy medium'. No one is swinging to the extremes like most of the rest of the country seems to be going.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by enemy country

pretty sure OBAMA won there!

It's the following comment that made it clear that you know nothing about politics in Southwestern Pennsylvania:

Originally Posted by enemy country

and what does this mean? what will your GOP fix? You act as if the DEMs have been in control all this time.

Throughout presidential election history, very few Republicans have won in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh almost always vote Democrat for presidential elections with the exception of a couple of elections throughout the entire history of electing presidents. So, where you're wrong is thinking that the Democrats aren't in control in Pittsburgh when it comes to presidential elections because the Democrats most certianly have a very strong hold on presidential elections here. Congress is another thing entirely. Pittsburgh enjoys electing Republican sentators and representatives. Go figure. We must like a balance of power or something. LOL

Originally Posted by enemy country

OH Im sorry someone forgot to tell you City Data is NATIONAL

If you're going to wander into a different state/city forum to discuss poltiics, it's a good idea to actually KNOW the politics of that area.

[Fiddlehead]

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

So true...from reading this forum and just general data on Pittsburgh, it seems somewhat of a sancuary of avoiding neo-cons.

When you view other forums, there are people organizing tea parties to just all out vicious hatred for Obama, etc. The sense the world is going to end because Obama is in, etc.

Personally, I feel that Pittsburgh is more in the 'happy medium'. No one is swinging to the extremes like most of the rest of the country seems to be going.

I hesitate to call any place a "happy medium" in these political times, but I think I agree. From what I have read here, folks can articulate a point without it immediately devolving into a political flamewar. I take that to suggest things are not as polarized as in many places, which seems pretty nice. That said, I would be amazed if the Burgh were immune to the mudslinging that occurs everywhere I've been in this country. For instance, when I read the letters to the editor in our local paper out here in hyper-polarized S. Oregon, I begin to lose all hope in humanity.

[enemy country]

Originally Posted by Hopes

It's the following comment that made it clear that you know nothing about politics in Southwestern Pennsylvania:


Throughout presidential election history, very few Republicans have won in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh almost always vote Democrat for presidential elections with the exception of a couple of elections throughout the entire history of electing presidents. So, where you're wrong is thinking that the Democrats aren't in control in Pittsburgh when it comes to presidential elections because the Democrats most certianly have a very strong hold on presidential elections here. Congress is another thing entirely. Pittsburgh enjoys electing Republican sentators and representatives. Go figure. We must like a balance of power or something. LOL


If you're going to wander into a different state/city forum to discuss poltiics, it's a good idea to actually KNOW the politics of that area.

I dont have to live there to know BS when I read it. If you dont want to read OP from all over go to another venue

[bethany12]

When did Western PA become so GOP friendly, and why?
Empty promises, high taxes, high cost of living, no jobs, corrupt leaders, cities draining rural areas for revenue, and union mentality.

Take your pick of any of the above.

I won't ever forget seeing Obama on TV in Beaver County during the campaign and promising to bring back the factories with green jobs. It was such a joke. Ironically, people actually believed it.

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by bethany12

When did Western PA become so GOP friendly, and why?
Empty promises, high taxes, high cost of living, no jobs, corrupt leaders, cities draining rural areas for revenue, and union mentality.

Take your pick of any of the above.

First of all, why can't partisan tools on either side realize that all politicians are corrupt and make empty promises? With that out of the way, Western PA has one of the lowest costs of living in the country, and one of the lowest unemployment rates. Exurban areas (aka rural areas) drain cities, not vice versa, with their commuters who come in every day and use our services and then go home to their sprawl to save a percentage point on taxes. Which brings me to: "high taxes" is relative. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, "union mentality". I used to be in a union (ILWU) and the lockstep mentality does get a little old. Kind of reminds me of the talk radio drones, except at one time unions acually did something worthwhile for humanity.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by creepsinc

First of all, why can't partisan tools on either side realize that all politicians are corrupt and make empty promises?

Perhaps it's more fun to dig in the trenches and sling mud.

[Tiger Beer]

Originally Posted by creepsinc

commuters who come in every day and use our services and then go home to their sprawl to save a percentage point on taxes. Which brings me to: "high taxes" is relative.

That's a good point to make, in general, with any urban vs suburban debate. Gas is not free.

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

That's a good point to make, in general, with any urban vs suburban debate. Gas is not free.

Of course, they probably fuel up out in West Jesus before their 45-minute commute into the big, bad city. The only thing exurban commuters contribute to cities is parking taxes, and sometimes they buy lunch, but that probably ends up at McDonald's corporate most of the time.