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Old 06-06-2010, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I'm not barking up the wrong tree. You said he deserved all the scorn that comes his way, but much of the scorn includes the "rapist" label, which he has not earned.
Not such that one can prove it in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt. But you know what? If you read the report and the eyewitness accounts and weigh the credibility of one side versus the other, it's pretty hard not to come to the conclusion that he's earned the "rapist" label as well. He has sufficiently done so to my satisfaction that I can't get too upset if people slap that label on him in addition to all the other scorn and derision -- and I was a skeptic before I read the report. Nobody but Ben put Ben in the position that he's in. I'm not shedding one tear for him, "rapist" label and all.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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You're right he's a therapist. Sorry, old Benny Hill joke, the rapist.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:02 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Not such that one can prove it in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt. But you know what? If you read the report and the eyewitness accounts and you weigh the credibility of one side versus the other, it's pretty hard not co come to that conclusion. So yeah, he's probably earned that label too -- at least he has sufficiently done so to my satisfaction that I can't get too upset if people slap that label on him too. Nobody but Ben put Ben in the position that he's in. I'm not shedding one tear for him, "rapist" label and all.
If the police say he hasn't earned that label, then he hasn't earned that label, because labeling somebody a rapist is effectively labeling them a criminal. On that note, he has never once seen the inside of a jail in his life.

Was his behavior stupid? Absolutely. Was it criminal? Those whose job it is to do their due diligence say it's perfectly reasonable to doubt it.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The police are not Label Police. Labels are earned by conduct, and it's quite likely that his conduct has earned him that label too. Would I call him one in public? No. Am I upset that others are heaping the label on him? After reading the report.... no, not really.

I'd like to see him sue someone who has called him one after this incident. It's a suit he'd probably lose.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:08 PM
 
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Seriously, the man has no class. My guess is Joe Namath nailed half of New York, ever read any stories about him? Hines Ward has an apartment on the SouthSide, no one seems to complaining. Jerome Bettis nailed about every stripper in town, never got in trouble, until that Greensburg broad tried to nail him. Ben is just stoopid.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:40 PM
 
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Sure, I'd love to summarize it for you: Roethlisberger is a misogynistic dickface.
Because he fooled around with a girl in a bathroom makes him a misogynist? I'm sorry...but I don't see it. That makes him a heterosexual; along with 99% of other guys.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Because he fooled around with a girl in a bathroom makes him a misogynist? I'm sorry...but I don't see it. That makes him a heterosexual; along with 99% of other guys.
You can either continue coming across as an ignorant, disgusting boor, or you could just read the reports for yourself. If you don't want to, I guess that's your prerogative, but know that your defense comes across as revolting as long as you refuse to get the bigger picture.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:55 PM
 
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You can either continue coming across as an ignorant, disgusting boor, or you could just read the reports for yourself. If you don't want to, I guess that's your prerogative, but know that your defense comes across as revolting as long as you refuse to get the bigger picture.
Like I said, I don't feel like wading through the report. So far all I have heard is that Ben was drinking, bought the girl some shots, they moseyed back to the bathroom to fool around, they did (and it was consensual), and then she falls.

Am I missing something here?
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Like I said, I don't feel like wading through the report. So far all I have heard is that Ben was drinking, bought the girl some shots, they moseyed back to the bathroom to fool around, they did (and it was consensual), and then she falls.

Am I missing something here?
Even after I've described some of the behaviors detailed in the report you still pretend like all that happened is a couple moseyed into a bathroom and moseyed out a couple minutes later. And you refuse to read the report yourself. So yes, you are missing something, and you're clearly determined to remain ignorant about what you're missing.

I suspect chicaraleigh has your number.
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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Like I said, I don't feel like wading through the report. So far all I have heard is that Ben was drinking, bought the girl some shots, they moseyed back to the bathroom to fool around, they did (and it was consensual), and then she falls.

Am I missing something here?
Yep
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