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View Poll Results: Should women seeking an abortion be required to view an image of the fetus?
Yes 14 17.50%
No 65 81.25%
Not sure 1 1.25%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-12-2010, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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I comprehend English and the definition of big words like "force" and "choice"....you do not.
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You really can't understand how passing a law FORCING women to have a procedure they don't need or request is NOT controlling women??? OHMYGAWD! Brainwash complete!!!!!
As explained for the umpteenth time, these women are ALREADY undergoing an ultrasound. What about that don't you comprehend?
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Old 06-12-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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Are you dizzy from all your spinning? Let's review your comment:

As explained for the umpteenth time, these women are ALREADY undergoing an ultrasound. What about that don't you comprehend?
I don't think so.

Please provide a link to support your assertion that it is standard procedure to do an ultrasound on all women seeking an abortion.
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Old 06-12-2010, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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I don't think so.

Please provide a link to support your assertion that it is standard procedure to do an ultrasound on all women seeking an abortion.
Abortion Causes, Symptoms, Treatment - Abortion Preparation on eMedicineHealth
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Imaging studies
An ultrasound is virtually always done for pregnancy confirmation and dating. Doctors are looking for how many fetuses may be developing, the size of the fetus or fetuses, a picture of the uterus and ovaries, and to rule out a problem such as an ectopic pregnancy (a life-threatening condition in which the fetus develops outside the uterus).
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The assessment process involves only a targeted history, physical examination, laboratory work, and ultrasound (including dating of the pregnancy, if indicated) followed by a counseling session.
ETA: My sister is an ultrasonographer and works in a OB/GYNE fertility clinic. Although her office does not perform abortions, she confirmed for me that u/s's are standard procedure to determine the gestational age of the fetus (many women lie about the date of their last menstrual period especially if they are at the upper end of the abortion timeframe window), and to determine the location and number of fetuses. Of course, you don't need to take my word for it. You can call your local abortion clinic and ask them their procedures.

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Old 06-12-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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Abortion Causes, Symptoms, Treatment - Abortion Preparation on eMedicineHealth

ETA: My sister is an ultrasonographer and works in a OB/GYNE fertility clinic. Although her office does not perform abortions, she confirmed for me that u/s's are standard procedure to determine the gestational age of the fetus (many women lie about the date of their last menstrual period especially if they are at the upper end of the abortion timeframe window), and to determine the location and number of fetuses. Of course, you don't need to take my word for it. You can call your local abortion clinic and ask them their procedures.
Thanks. I did a search, obviously did not word it properly.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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"Routine ultrasound is not considered medically necessary as a component of first trimester abortion.."

http://www.guttmacher.org/statecente...s/spib_RFU.pdf

Here's an interesting article on the effect forcing women to view ultrasounds has had on their decisions to abort in other states where this has already been introduced (Hint it has had no effect):

In Ultrasound, Abortion Fight Has New Front - NYTimes.com
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I thought the GOP and tea party was about less government in their lives.................hmmmmm it seems they like to put that aside when it will help with their agenda
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:24 PM
 
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He keeps digging himself a hole. You want to murder your child you should be forced to see it before you do. Don't like that? Don't get pregnant.
I am anti abortion, but this proposed law clearly would not stand up in court.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:28 PM
 
Location: California
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No. It's counter productive to put more restrictions on first trimester abortions since it will just lead to an increase in second trimester abortions. Women having first trimester abortions most likely shouldn't be having the babies anyway dontcha think?
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:40 PM
 
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Wrong. I'm pretty sure that an ultrasound is required and performed prior to &/or during the abortion procedure itself.
You are pretty wrong.

Ever heard of RU487?

Forcing women to have a penetrative vaginal ultrasound (medical procedure) before undergoing a legal, often nonmedical procedure, is a huge violation of personal privacy and autonomy.
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:17 AM
 
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You are pretty wrong.

Ever heard of RU487?

No, but I have heard of RU486.
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