Why can't we be as progressive as these other countries ? See this Argentinian ad/video. (insurance, government)
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Oddly a religious marriage requires a secular acknowledgement to be legal and a secular marriage or civil union, they mean the same, does not require a religious ceremony. I object to the secular law creating a specific class of people (same sex couples) to enforce a personal dislike or religious dogma. If you would defend freedom, defend what you despise.
The state regulates marriage for reasons that have nothing to do with religion. The fact that ministers are allowed to perform marriages simply means they are authorized agents of the state for that limited purpose. Now civil society has always had an interest in defining the marital union and protecting it. A married couple is the building block of society. The state wants that building block to be strong. So it limits who can and cannot be married. Polygamy is banned because it threatens the stability of that unit of society. Marriage between close relatives threatens not only society but the progeny of that union. The fundamental purpose of marriage is procreation as that is how society assures its continuity. That does not mean that every union will result in progeny, for various reasons. But as much as practicable the state tries to ensure marriages will be fruitful. (Obviously that leaves out homosexual unions). I'm sure other reasons may be given that the state wants and needs to regulate marriage. Interestingly the notion of advancing or ratifying romantic love is not one of them. So if the only argument to be made that the state, on equal protection grounds, needs to recognize the "love" of homosexuals the fact is that is not a function of the state and it's not what it does when it licenses marriage.
The state regulates marriage for reasons that have nothing to do with religion. The fact that ministers are allowed to perform marriages simply means they are authorized agents of the state for that limited purpose. Now civil society has always had an interest in defining the marital union and protecting it. A married couple is the building block of society. The state wants that building block to be strong. So it limits who can and cannot be married. Polygamy is banned because it threatens the stability of that unit of society. Marriage between close relatives threatens not only society but the progeny of that union. The fundamental purpose of marriage is procreation as that is how society assures its continuity. That does not mean that every union will result in progeny, for various reasons. But as much as practicable the state tries to ensure marriages will be fruitful. (Obviously that leaves out homosexual unions). I'm sure other reasons may be given that the state wants and needs to regulate marriage. Interestingly the notion of advancing or ratifying romantic love is not one of them. So if the only argument to be made that the state, on equal protection grounds, needs to recognize the "love" of homosexuals the fact is that is not a function of the state and it's not what it does when it licenses marriage.
My neighborhood may be a bit different than most. I live in the Castro District of San Francisco. We have many gay families with several children. Some who have grown up to be doctors and lawyers and respectable citizens. It does not matter what gender the parents are but how much love and proper attention the children are getting. There are also many who have been in relationships for 30 plus years. My partner and I have been together for over 15 years. Gay people are being discriminated against, plain and simple. This issue needs to be changed on the federal level and not by the states. We will not have true equality until the federal government grants us the same benefits as every one else.
It hasn't destroyed it anywhere that gay marriage is currently allowed.
How could it ? That whole concept is rediculous.
If Bob and Joe or Mary and Diane get married accross the street how is that going to ruin Jim and Sue's marriage ?
It's the 21st century let's move forward and stop the hate and discrimination.
My neighborhood may be a bit different than most. I live in the Castro District of San Francisco. We have many gay families with several children. Some who have grown up to be doctors and lawyers and respectable citizens. It does not matter what gender the parents are but how much love and proper attention the children are getting. There are also many who have been in relationships for 30 plus years. My partner and I have been together for over 15 years. Gay people are being discriminated against, plain and simple. This issue needs to be changed on the federal level and not by the states. We will not have true equality until the federal government grants us the same benefits as every one else.
The Government should not be granting ANY benefits to anyone, base on marriage.
The laws providing those benefits should be aabolished - and then you would have your "true equality".
he was correct, it is not a right in the goverment, but it is a right in the church. hence all marriages should be excluded from any goverment regulation and should be left to the churches to decide who gets married and who doesnt.
civil unions are still in the pervue of goverment.
he was correct, it is not a right in the goverment, but it is a right in the church. hence all marriages should be excluded from any goverment regulation and should be left to the churches to decide who gets married and who doesnt.
civil unions are still in the pervue of goverment.
It is a right outside Church and State.
People have rites, too!
Wright it up.
Upright, not uptight.
Authoritarians will NEVER get it.
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