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Old 08-11-2010, 11:39 PM
 
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hang in there Pappy& Me there are millions of us, i't all about timing when the time is right we will get our Country back. i'ts all about timing

I has come to the point that now we have allowed the enemy to build up so much power it will be hard unless millions wake up and wake up very soon .

We will never win with bullets thats for sure ,they have killed off or maimed and drugged up most of our young patriots in unjust wars , but protest and ballots is our only hope. But we need the young to realize they have been decieved .

Nothing new going after the young, hitler did the same thing, started in schools just like they have done past 40 years or more .
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:19 AM
 
Location: California
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Who is "the enemy"? I asked you before to tell us what the problem is, the cause of all your worries (which, btw, I don't agree with). I didn't see an answer but I'm thinking it's this "enemy"?

As someone with kids, who just finished up with public school, I have no clue as to what you are so upset about. Nothing you are so upset over ever happened, nothing even close. I'm at a loss really to explain why you think certain things are just routinely happening everywhere when my own recent experience and that of people I know say otherwise. I'm talking specifically of sex/sex ed since you seem keenly interested in that. You can find bad examples of everything, even of the best things, but overall...nope. I don't see what you see.

And the kids I know are happy. Or as happy as they can be, as anyone ever could be. Past/present...it's all the same.
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:33 AM
 
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Who is "the enemy"? I asked you before to tell us what the problem is, the cause of all your worries (which, btw, I don't agree with). I didn't see an answer but I'm thinking it's this "enemy"?

As someone with kids, who just finished up with public school, I have no clue as to what you are so upset about. Nothing you are so upset over ever happened, nothing even close. I'm at a loss really to explain why you think certain things are just routinely happening everywhere when my own recent experience and that of people I know say otherwise. I'm talking specifically of sex/sex ed since you seem keenly interested in that. You can find bad examples of everything, even of the best things, but overall...nope. I don't see what you see.

And the kids I know are happy. Or as happy as they can be, as anyone ever could be. Past/present...it's all the same.

If you don't see whats going on than I sure can't tell you .

Maybe you have nothing to compare it to so it is your idea of normal .

Or maybe your just baiting me again and if I take the bait I deserve to loose posting previledges .

Is it ok with most people that kids are not going to have the same chances in life they did .
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:44 AM
 
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No, if you cannot articulate the problem correctly than you cannot identify solutions. Unless, that is the point.
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Old 08-12-2010, 05:47 AM
 
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I thniik if you build one that can go back to pre 1968;alot of people will buy tickets. Altho they might find it strange for awhile to let their chldren have more freedom of movemnt and not lock their doors all the time;they will get use to it. They might realise what freedom really means.
A lot of the young would not go. No iPods, no twitter and facebook, not even cell phones. We were also at war back then, and they actually drafted young men. But it would be nice to get the economic conditions back then when there were jobs for almost anyone, especially if you had a college education.
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Old 08-12-2010, 05:59 AM
 
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Think of the country as the head of a household. His parents and grandparents worked hard and he's inherited a successful business and a large house and he has a nice family. Then imagine he starts drinking and gambling and living well beyond his means. Credit cards and IOU's can keep the bill collectors away. Then he starts doing drugs. He stops showing up for work half the time. He begins to associate with low lifes and some move into the house to take advantage of him. His business is going under, his creditors begin to harass and push him around, outsiders take over his business, his new "friends" steal his stuff and his family leaves him. That's just about where we're at as a country.
Maybe we need to hit rock bottom. We're almost there, the greatest depression the country has ever known is at best only a few years off. Yeah we'll either go back to how we were 100+ years ago and rebuild or we'll fall apart and become just a third world version of what we used to be.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I get in trouble here a lot because I am so ' passionate 'about all the changes going on in my nation and society.

I don't really blame the site they have to keep peopel like me under control when I go off into a rant .

But it is hard to just sit back and watch things go bad . Just about everythign that made us great has been tampered with now by either non assimulating invaders or immoral lobbies and groups .

Some things can't be sugar coated .

No way can you tell a parent that there child 'needs' to know how to have sex with just about every crevice in their young bodies .

Why can I go to jail if I chose to go topless but others can do so by the hundreds or thousands in some cases and it's ok ?

Why has our space program been tanked and turned into a missionary to welcome muslims ? Why do we 'need' more muslism in our politics, any muslim will tell you they don't go by constitution, they go buy quran ,look at their women if you want to see proof .

Why do polititions still make even more money while we are living in tent cities ?

Why are our troops dying in a war that nobody wins ? I see some with loss limbs and site at hubbys doctors office and sick of wishing it wuld stop ! Why do so many commit suicide now , and how many are now permantly maimed for life ,half a million ? How many have our polititions and high ranking officers turned into drug addicts so they can send them back with hands tied and very few nesscesities like soap sanintary pads [ imagine being with or being stuck in that heat with no pads !!!! ] , socks,shoes and even food in some cases . I can't afford to help them anymore for a long time now, but I can try to get them out with help from others . Yet we keep giving ,giving and giving to many who can't stand us .We sent them there , we voted for the ones in office . All of them agreed to start this war not just repubs, but dems too .Then that pelosi traitor to open borders has the nerve to fly around on military jets and her familiy too of course and make sky waiters and busboys out of the very ones she sent to war . Pitched a fit because they forgot her stinking Grey Goose .

Why are we allowing the entire third world to come in legally and illegally while we are in a depression if you lost your job and a recession if I lost mine .

Why are our kids being turned against us and their nation in our schools and uniersities br the tellign of half truths and lies ?

Why do people who an't afford to live withour help keep having kids ?

Just a few things that get my goat .

I know why do you ?
You're an American, and you're welcome to your opinion.

I'm not even going to go point by point, because these are your assertions on American society, some which I agree with, many of which I don't.

Thats the wonderful thing about our country, we can agree, to disagree.

I haven't heard of anyone promoting children being taught how to have sex in the class room. I have heard many say that they should be taught about safety measures that can be taken to make sure that when they have sex, its safe sex.

Thats just one point you went WILDLY off on a rant, saying that "all" parents feel the way you do. Thats just not true.

My problem with you're little rant, is that you lumped everyone into the way you think, when its clear that a very large part, even a majority on some of the issues, disagree with you. Does that mean America is terrible? No, does it mean our best days are behind us? I don't think so.

We are in trouble. We have money trouble, and we've over extended ourselves in warfare more than we should have.

What brought down every major empire the world has ever seen? Money. Rome ran out of money to pay for its soldiers to defend its huge empire. England lost its colonies because they no longer had the money to control them.

There is a very real reason why our founding fathers didn't want to be caught up in world affairs, and world warfare. Thats the reason America is in the tank, we have become an empire. We have to scale down our world wide military efforts.

Everything else is opinion.
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Old 08-12-2010, 07:53 AM
 
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I have an idea, build a time machine and go back to the nineteenth century, I'm
pretty sure you'll be much happier there....no I'm not kidding.
ya know what's REALLY funny about going back to the 19th century....the complaints would be the same!

Throughout history(and not just America's) people have complained about life and how it WAS so much better before and all our children are going to hell and isn't it awful and woe is me!
And, YES, I do realize times are really rotten without too much hope but whining about it isn't new...
YES, there were things that were better years ago but times change....and that can't be stopped.

AND EVERY century had it's horrors ...the "good old days" never did COMPLETELY exist.....except in selective memories.
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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I thniik if you build one that can go back to pre 1968;alot of people will buy tickets. Altho they might find it strange for awhile to let their chldren have more freedom of movemnt and not lock their doors all the time;they will get use to it. They might realise what freedom really means.
I'm black....I pass on the going back in time thing.
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:18 AM
 
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I try . But we have so many others from schools to paents telling them we'r wrong . I'm heartbroken about a couple of my gandkids who are grown . Schools tell lthem whatever feels good is ok and if you don't get along with opposite sex maybe your a homosexer. And thats perfectly 'natural'.

I told my grown kids to get them out of the cess pools called schools now years ago . Bt they didn't .

None get married anymore, they don't even exspect to have a long time relationhip I guess .

I went to a city hundreds of miles away and spent money we didn't really have to protest illegals . All the promoters were scaired off and it didn't happen . But the same time 400 illegals busted into the state capital of that city making demands . This is o longer a nation when it has no borders and anythign from lepers to terrorist can just walk right in and start making demands .

Last protest I was ask to organize only 35 Americans came , I was cursed, threatened cops called and I had a permit, so until your involed deeply you don't know . I had visions and cold fear of bullets hitting me in the head while I carried my sign 'Hire Americans not illegals ' then I thought of all the troops I helped send to war by voting for the liars and I wasn't affraid anymore .

I'm old and I did what I could and either the young will stand up and take back the nation or we all lose .
LOL Homosexer, WTH??
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