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Old 01-08-2011, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Founding fathers drank beer and the rebellion was spread through the local pub. I'm doing nothing they didn't do, and it enhances an already awesome life. Relaxing on the weekends helps me perform during the week.
I didn't say anything about beer or pubs. I was talking about illegal, mind-altering drugs.

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I don't mind that you dislike marijuana, its not for you, and I respect that. All I ask is that I get the decision for myself.
There are better decisions to be made. Especially regarding illegal substances. Of course marijuana isn't for me... I was brought up better than that!
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Gone
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I suggest all of you ppl against the legalization of substances, especially cannabis to watch the following video:

The Union
You are mixing pot and cocaine and making claims based on that incorrect association, it only proves you do not actually know anything on the subject of drugs and their affects.
Casper
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:41 AM
 
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Guns going in. Drugs coming out. Kidnappings, rapes, extortion. Reminds me of Prohibition, in a way.

Attack on bar in Cancun leaves 8 dead - World news - Americas - Focus on Mexico - msnbc.com

I joined the Air Force in 1990. I worked in Japan in '91, and a few years after. I joined to serve my country. I was ready to go to war. I wasn't looking forward to it, but I was ready if I was called.

So, I'm talking to this guy about people dying in the war and he's like, "Well, at least we're not killing them." and I said, "Sure we are." and he's like, "No, we're sitting here." and I'm like "Yep, sitting here making sure these communications lines stay up, so the orders to the ships and the jets make it through, so the jets will know where to fly and where to bomb, and so they can kill some people. Without us, it wouldn't be possible." And he's like, "I never thought of it like that."

Same guy. Hated gays. I told him, "I wish more people were gay. I wish 99 percent of all men were gay." And he's like "Why, are you gay or sumptin'?" and I'm like , "Nope. If 99 percent of all men were gay, that would mean ugly mother******s like me would have a chance at some really hot chicks." It took him a minute, but he got the point.

This war on drugs. It's not a war.

It's a joke. It's a travesty. It's a failed social experiment. People have been getting high in multitudes of ways for 1000's of years. I would call that pretty much ingrained behavior

What this charade does do, though, is it does make it possible for some very bad people to have a lot of money. These people will eventually run out of people to kill and terrorize. Then, they will start looking at us. In some states, they already have. I wish America would just starve the beast by making this junk legal. All of it. Legalize everything. Let families, pastors, community centers and the police handle people who can't handle themselves. The U.S. would not implode. It would actually be stronger.

Would some people go overboard? And possibly die. Sure.
Would some not? Sure.

Drugs are here now. This problem in a Cancun bar. It's all connected. By buying Mexican drugs we make it possible for these calculating monsters to be able to kill and hurt even more people. By incarcerating our citizens and giving them a criminal record for life for a few moments of pleasure, we create our own sub-class of servants for our society. "Hey! Thought you'd get a job doing something cool? Nope! You've got a drug record! You'll be digging ditches or washing cars for the REST OF YOUR LIFE." By having so much drug money available to "fight the war", you're also incentivizing your police force and judicial system to put and have as many people in the system as possible. What the hell kind of society does this?

We're becoming a nation of criminals - or as in the case of red light cameras - the government NEEDS people to break the law so the government can get PAID, ostensibly to take better care of it's PEOPLE.

I can see it. Why can't the government see it? Why can't every one see it?

Why?
The sin of recreational drug usage is killing people and destroying lives. If there were no demand they would not be bringing their crud into our borders.
This junk turns what could have been productive people into the homeless and people on welfare not paying taxes.
I wish drug suppliers could be shot on sight. That recreational users would be forced to work without drugs pay or not under supervising for a year and any personal wealth confiscated.
I also hope they don't attempt to breed while on drugs, that is how you get a mental deficient like the shooter from yesterday.
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I didn't say anything about beer or pubs. I was talking about illegal, mind-altering drugs.



There are better decisions to be made. Especially regarding illegal substances. Of course marijuana isn't for me... I was brought up better than that!
Your point was that taking a drug is an escape from life. My point is that the founding fathers took drugs (alcohol), and they weren't escaping life.

Why the double standard.

I suppose people should have just shut up and took alcohol prohibition. I was brought up to make my own decisions, and not always trust the government. Such is the way most Americans were brought up.

You yourself fight against government control on lots of issues. But when I have a difference on when I disagree with the government, I'm just a drug addict who should listen to the powers that be.

Hypocrisy
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Earth
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The sin of recreational drug usage is killing people and destroying lives. If there were no demand they would not be bringing their crud into our borders.
This junk turns what could have been productive people into the homeless and people on welfare not paying taxes.
I wish drug suppliers could be shot on sight. That recreational users would be forced to work without drugs pay or not under supervising for a year and any personal wealth confiscated.
I also hope they don't attempt to breed while on drugs, that is how you get a mental deficient like the shooter from yesterday.
Wow, what pharms are you on?
Your post seems like a break from reality.
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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The sin of recreational drug usage is killing people and destroying lives. If there were no demand they would not be bringing their crud into our borders.
This junk turns what could have been productive people into the homeless and people on welfare not paying taxes.
I wish drug suppliers could be shot on sight. That recreational users would be forced to work without drugs pay or not under supervising for a year and any personal wealth confiscated.
I also hope they don't attempt to breed while on drugs, that is how you get a mental deficient like the shooter from yesterday.
One question.

Why is it crud? You can't answer that by "its illegal", I want an honest answer on why its crud. If you want to say its harmful, or hurts society in some way, please, offer some scientific evidence. The drug trade and violence are created by its illegality, not by the drug itself.
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Gone
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The sin of recreational drug usage is killing people and destroying lives. If there were no demand they would not be bringing their crud into our borders.
This junk turns what could have been productive people into the homeless and people on welfare not paying taxes.
I wish drug suppliers could be shot on sight. That recreational users would be forced to work without drugs pay or not under supervising for a year and any personal wealth confiscated.
I also hope they don't attempt to breed while on drugs, that is how you get a mental deficient like the shooter from yesterday.
None of what you stated has anything to do with smoking pot, which is the topic of the thread. The common mistake I see here is people equating pot with hard drugs, if you actually knew anything about pot you would not even try to make the connection.
Casper
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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None of what you stated has anything to do with smoking pot, which is the topic of the thread. The common mistake I see here is people equating pot with hard drugs, if you actually knew anything about pot you would not even try to make the connection.
Casper
Perhaps he has scientific evidence we aren't privy to. I'm just curious as why he thinks its crud, other than the fact its against the law.
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The sin of recreational drug usage is killing people and destroying lives. If there were no demand they would not be bringing their crud into our borders.
This junk turns what could have been productive people into the homeless and people on welfare not paying taxes.
I wish drug suppliers could be shot on sight. That recreational users would be forced to work without drugs pay or not under supervising for a year and any personal wealth confiscated.
I also hope they don't attempt to breed while on drugs, that is how you get a mental deficient like the shooter from yesterday.



The very same could be said for alcohol. Actually the stats on alcohol blast anythig on pot, cocaine, meth, or opium based... COMBINED.
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:58 AM
 
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Prior to moving, I had a prescription. It's fairly common in California. I would buy pot as part of my errands (grocery shopping, gym, mowing the lawn, buying some weed). It really was nice just going to some suburban shopping plaza to buy weed instead of a dealer in shadier parts of town.

I view weed like wine. It's good in limited quantities, but can be bad in higher quantities for many individuals. When I mean "bad" it has a de-motivating effect that is well documented. One can become psychologically dependent (though not physically dependent, which is helpful when quiting...I went from smoking every other day to nill VERY easily).

It would be cool to see high end weed connoisseurs bring in more revenue in depressed rural places around the nation.
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