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Old 11-26-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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Smoking good dope is nothing but proof of free-market demand, and because of our federal policy of criminalizing this natural substance, THEY are the ones supporting the cartels, not the users.

If our federal government didn't have some bizarre war and hypocrisy against marijuana, the cartels would be powerless, or less so. We still have a cocaine issue, which is a bit of a tougher issue than the legalization of harmless weed.
Agreed.

I think cocaine - and its derivatives - are the real issues that need tackling.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: On Top
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UR ALL WRONG KIDS.....good dope doesn't come from MEXICO. When I used to smoke the "BOMBDIGETY" I was fully aware that I was supporting those socialist pigs up in British Columbia LMAO
I get my seeds(guaranteed female buds) from British Columbia!
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:52 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What kind of idiot has to take drugs in the first place? I consider all illegal drug users to be traitors to America, given the horrible economic shape the country is in and the cost to fight the drug war. Not to mention they have blood on their hands by proping up the Mexican cartels.
What do you think about the idiots who've decided to waste so much $$$ on the war on drugs?

And would you be OK with people using drugs if they were made legal, or is it only OK if Big Pharma gets their cut, despite side effects which may inclyde death?
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Default Cartel suppliers

A friend uses cannabis to ease chronic pain from an otherwise intractable medical condition grows his and thus does not aid the cartels in any way shape or form. Apparently expensive approved drugs supplied by Big Pharma are ineffective.

I hope our legislature works out a plan allowing the medical use of this drug with or without the interference of Big Pharma or the aid of the cartels.

Personally I support making cannabis as well as the rest legal on a Federal level. These drugs should be regulated in a manner similar to alcohol and tobacco.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:04 PM
 
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Guns going in. Drugs coming out. Kidnappings, rapes, extortion. Reminds me of Prohibition, in a way.

Attack on bar in Cancun leaves 8 dead - World news - Americas - Focus on Mexico - msnbc.com

I joined the Air Force in 1990. I worked in Japan in '91, and a few years after. I joined to serve my country. I was ready to go to war. I wasn't looking forward to it, but I was ready if I was called.

So, I'm talking to this guy about people dying in the war and he's like, "Well, at least we're not killing them." and I said, "Sure we are." and he's like, "No, we're sitting here." and I'm like "Yep, sitting here making sure these communications lines stay up, so the orders to the ships and the jets make it through, so the jets will know where to fly and where to bomb, and so they can kill some people. Without us, it wouldn't be possible." And he's like, "I never thought of it like that."

Same guy. Hated gays. I told him, "I wish more people were gay. I wish 99 percent of all men were gay." And he's like "Why, are you gay or sumptin'?" and I'm like , "Nope. If 99 percent of all men were gay, that would mean ugly mother******s like me would have a chance at some really hot chicks." It took him a minute, but he got the point.

This war on drugs. It's not a war.

It's a joke. It's a travesty. It's a failed social experiment. People have been getting high in multitudes of ways for 1000's of years. I would call that pretty much ingrained behaviour

What this charade does do, though, is it does make it possible for some very bad people to have a lot of money. These people will eventually run out of people to kill and terrorize. Then, they will start looking at us. In some states, they already have. I wish America would just starve the beast by making this junk legal. All of it. Legalize everything. Let families, pastors, community centers and the police handle people who can't handle themselves. The U.S. would not implode. It would actually be stronger.

Would some people go overboard? And possibly die. Sure.
Would some not? Sure.

Drugs are here now. This problem in a Cancun bar. It's all connected. By buying Mexican drugs we make it possible for these calculating monsters to be able to kill and hurt even more people. By incarcerating our citizens and giving them a criminal record for life for a few moments of pleasure, we create our own sub-class of servants for our society. "Hey! Thought you'd get a job doing something cool? Nope! You've got a drug record! You'll be digging ditches or washing cars for the REST OF YOUR LIFE." By having so much drug money available to "fight the war", you're also incentivizing your police force and judicial system to put and have as many people in the system as possible. What the hell kind of society does this?

We're becoming a nation of criminals - or as in the case of red light cameras - the government NEEDS people to break the law so the government can get PAID, ostensibly to take better care of it's PEOPLE.

I can see it. Why can't the government see it? Why can't every one see it?

Why?



Goes deep beyond any Drug War in government as well.

That ought to open some eyes if it's looked into.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:09 PM
 
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Well said. My thoughts exactly. People complain about drug violence and the war on drugs, but if selfish idiots didn't use drugs it would all disappear overnight. If you use drugs, you are directly responsible for the people that get murdered over them.
that sounds completely heinous, glib, and quite frankly idiotic. now i know why you fit in so well within your ilk, haha!
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Your point was that taking a drug is an escape from life. My point is that the founding fathers took drugs (alcohol), and they weren't escaping life.

Why the double standard.

I suppose people should have just shut up and took alcohol prohibition. I was brought up to make my own decisions, and not always trust the government. Such is the way most Americans were brought up.

You yourself fight against government control on lots of issues. But when I have a difference on when I disagree with the government, I'm just a drug addict who should listen to the powers that be.

Hypocrisy
No hypocrisy on my part. Two wrongs still don't make a right.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:00 AM
 
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The most important question here is...Whatever happened to Thai sticks?
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:34 AM
 
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maybe cocaine and heroin....but most of the good marijuana comes from the US and Canada.

Mexico is known for really bad quality weed.

EDIT: And the US Pharma industry has pretty much obliterated the black market heroin game.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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The Mexican Cannabis industry is a ghost of its former self due to the dramatic increase in boutique growers in the U.S. and Canada. Even the larger foreign owned outdoor operations in California are decreasing since good old American entrepreneurs have stepped up their production.

However, Mexico is still making a killing as middlemen and producers of hard drugs.
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