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Once you have enough money that you could not survive eating, screwing or drinking it away why would you want more?
I am mostly annoyed by the fact that most of the wealthy are making their money without having to put in their god given 40 hour work weeks. The wealthy are the other welfare class in this economy and cost far more than the poor.
Such bitterness is not healthy.
If you are speaking to the trust fund babies, they irk a lot of us, but the current tax system hardly affects them at all. The idle rich who booze it up and sail around in their yachts are not the problem in this country. The only way to get these non-productive people to pay taxes is to change the tax code. Fat chance of getting that done as long as we have the crony capitalist, career politicians in control of government. they are the reason that nothing seems to change no matter which political party is in control.
After a millionaire pays his taxes, he's still a millionaire.
I don't see them having much of a cause for whining.
So, exactly how much of other peoples earnings do you want?
Is there a point when you are comfortable by making others pay?
39% isn't enough. How about 45%? 58% 67% 78% - hell, why not 98%?
Do you really think no matter how much this government taxes others they'll give you a bigger share of the take?
Gotta love the class envy that the liberals (or closet socialists maybe) display in this topic. Because it worked sooooo well in the USSR, Cuba, China, North Korea, and the Eastern Bloc? It seems like a lot of the jealous liberals here would rather everyone be poor like them than for them to make it higher. How sad. That's why socialism has failed, you can't make everyone equal no matter how much you dream. I'd rather live in a country where one has the chance of striking gold, instead of no matter how hard he works, he's still gonna be not more than a high school dropout. No thanks. If you want to point fingers, don't point it at the people making under a million dollars a year. Your average small business owner makes under a million per year, not even doctors make that much! Your envy toward people making $250K per year, that could be your surgeon you're talking about. It's funny too, what id Obama had said that people making over $400,000 a year need to pay up. Then you parrots wouldn't be talking about the $250K, you'd be parroting $400K, none of you libs realize it but you're just as guilty as the neo-cons in parroting talking points. Only you don't realize it because you're just repeating what they say from MSNBC, Daily Kos, CPUSA, and Obama. Good riddance
That group pays the most taxes, carries most of the tax burden in the country, uses their money to employ us, pay for our health benefits, and they get nothing in return from the government except they are evil and must pay up even more of what they already shoulder. And they don't qualify for welfare handouts.
Failure of a topic
I got skewered for my opinion about this on another thread, but here goes again. My family of four makes just under that amount annually, and we are not suffering. At. All. Life is very good at this income level.
If i'm working in a factory and paying 30% of my pay in taxes i would expect the owner of the factory to be also paying 30% of his income to taxes.
Is there something wrong with that viewpoint?
If i'm working in a factory and paying 30% of my pay in taxes i would expect the owner of the factory to be also paying 30% of his income to taxes.
Is there something wrong with that viewpoint?
No, but how about this:
The factory worker pays 30% of his income in taxes, but the owner of the factory only pays 15% of his income in taxes because most of his income comes from capital gains and stock profits.
I dont know much about capital gains and stock profits as i'm just the guy working in the factory, but i do believe the guy at the top should be similarly inconvenienced by taxes as the guy on the bottom..
What twisted words? What exactly are 'we' talking about? Are you suggesting that the decision/ability to have a family should be based on income? Lets just assume that is what you are saying... how do you propose to 'fix' the low income family situation? Sterilization?
If you can't afford it, don't have them. Having other people pay for your children (with that wonderful socail engineering that ohh so much rewards those who are responsible) isn't exactly being parent of the year. Of course there is no real fix, other then ending social engineering and the tax system. But hey, we can all dream and in the meantime I'll be an outspoken critic of stupidity.
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Originally Posted by MsMcQ LV
Raised my family of five on just a bit over that 30k. Maybe we didn't have 'the best' of everything, but we had what we needed. That's the problem I see more and more - no one seems to want anything less than the best, whether they can afford it or actually need it or not.
In most areas, 30K really isn't making it for a family of 4.
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Originally Posted by Wapasha
Agreed, i take umbrage to that also. I was raised with four siblings, and my mother earned an equivalent of under $30,000. a person should not make a hasty declaration concerning the means in which other people live their lives.
Surely, but at the same time, I take umbrage with child tax credits, earned income credit, WICS, child health plus, and the multitude of other taxpayer-funded systems.
I have no problems with people affording their kids and scraping by on their own, when the taxpayer is required to give a leg up because the parents can't provide, then those people whould not have kids.
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