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Old 09-25-2010, 09:19 AM
 
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What about cheap labor liberals who support illegals, since the majority of people that employ them do so so they can pay them less than what they pay legal residents, and most leftists want illegals here, keeping them oppressed.
umm, you answered your own question...it's a business/corporatist scam.

The solution is to jail AND fine the business owners
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:32 AM
 
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It's bizarre that a young woman would choose to save herself for marriage and not sleep around? Wow have our morals and perspective been screwed up.
Nope.

Its bizarre that she is openly stating that she intends to force her own personal beliefs on others through legislation and yet she is proclaimed by herself and by others to be for "limited gubmint".

Sheesh you and your crusading "progressive" counterpart seriously need a reality check.
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:41 AM
 
Location: california
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The problem is , voting people in office to represent us, and they end up representing some small interest group in sted ,making decisions clearly against the values you voted them in office to represent and ther is little you can do about it once the damage is done. there is no accountability . for them it is a win / win situation.
they have no right voting them selves rases, we are their employers yet they reach into our pocket at their leasure, to fund thier own agendas.
Bills are a joke, in sted of voting each bill on it's own values , the swindelrs tag several bills on one ticket and want compromise out of every one to get what most would not touch with a long handel shovel. That is your government they are already thugs all of them we gave them the right to be, because we wanted representation so we didn't have to be involved in decision making. Do you vote? dump about 90 % of congress and there would be more than enough money to print ballots for voting on a regular basis ,say once every 3 months, and it would be done by popular vote , none of this phoney representation crap. problem is congress won't let go of their cushy jobs .
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:53 AM
 
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The problem is , voting people in office to represent us, and they end up representing some small interest group in sted ,making decisions clearly against the values you voted them in office to represent and ther is little you can do about it once the damage is done. there is no accountability . for them it is a win / win situation.
they have no right voting them selves rases, we are their employers yet they reach into our pocket at their leasure, to fund thier own agendas.
Bills are a joke, in sted of voting each bill on it's own values , the swindelrs tag several bills on one ticket and want compromise out of every one to get what most would not touch with a long handel shovel. That is your government they are already thugs all of them we gave them the right to be, because we wanted representation so we didn't have to be involved in decision making. Do you vote? dump about 90 % of congress and there would be more than enough money to print ballots for voting on a regular basis ,say once every 3 months, and it would be done by popular vote , none of this phoney representation crap. problem is congress won't let go of their cushy jobs .

You got it. Special interests gotta go!
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Earth
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The problem is , voting people in office to represent us, and they end up representing some small interest group in sted ,making decisions clearly against the values you voted them in office to represent and ther is little you can do about it once the damage is done. there is no accountability . for them it is a win / win situation.
they have no right voting them selves rases, we are their employers yet they reach into our pocket at their leasure, to fund thier own agendas.
Bills are a joke, in sted of voting each bill on it's own values , the swindelrs tag several bills on one ticket and want compromise out of every one to get what most would not touch with a long handel shovel. That is your government they are already thugs all of them we gave them the right to be, because we wanted representation so we didn't have to be involved in decision making. Do you vote? dump about 90 % of congress and there would be more than enough money to print ballots for voting on a regular basis ,say once every 3 months, and it would be done by popular vote , none of this phoney representation crap. problem is congress won't let go of their cushy jobs .
You may have something to say, can you please use your spell check - I can't read this as is...


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Those primitive brained folks who oppose the Tea Party are the lazy ones who are getting a free ride off of the government. Somewhere somehow they are getting their free cookie from big government and the Tea Party movement threatens their little honey hole. I feel bad for those who oppose the Tea Party, being underachievers and all. After all aren’t most Tea Baggers middle aged and rich? There most be something to it.

Poverty sucks!
Really?
I'm anti-teabagger; liberal, make a good living and pay my taxes without whining.
Don't feel bad for me; look at the baggers with your sympathy.

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What about cheap labor liberals who support illegals, since the majority of people that employ them do so so they can pay them less than what they pay legal residents, and most leftists want illegals here, keeping them oppressed.
Where do you get your information? Beck?
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:10 AM
 
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umm, you answered your own question...it's a business/corporatist scam.

The solution is to jail AND fine the business owners
But, it's the radical leftists that support illegals being there, thus it is they who are responsible for illegals being paid so poorly. You are indirectly responsible for low wages for illegals.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Earth
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But, it's the radical leftists that support illegals being there, thus it is they who are responsible for illegals being paid so poorly. You are indirectly responsible for low wages for illegals.
We do? Really?
How about something other than your opinion?

You refuse to respond to that question. Where do you get your information?
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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But, it's the radical leftists that support illegals being there, thus it is they who are responsible for illegals being paid so poorly. You are indirectly responsible for low wages for illegals.
umm, again you answered your own question

Cheap labor conservatives are directly responsible for low wages of illegals

Jail & fine the responsible business owners and illegal aliens will stop
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Were there tea partiers rallying for small government and decreasing debt 4 years ago? Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to be a fledgling movement. Of course people will question why they chose this moment in time to form their movement.

Nope, never been to a Tea Party rally or movement. I live in an area of the South that simply hasn't seen much "movement" I guess. And I havent found the interest to drive a few hours to one of their rallies. I'd show up at a rally if it were close to home
The Tea Party started in 2007. Not many people protested before that since things were going good. And truth be told not many saw what was coming. The public is becoming better informed. The public is no longer falling for the failed policies of Keynesian economics. More understand about bubbles now.
The correct question should be where was everyone else when the country was building up to this mess. If you want to know which people knew the collapse was coming LONG before it did, check out the people who follow Austrian Economics.

As always don't believe the rhetoric of the candidates, check out how they vote. There are grand standers everywhere.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What is so extreme about the "Tea Party", their hypocracy. They want lower taxes yet most are riding Social Security and Medicare.
People are forced to pay into the scam I don't blame them for wanting some of their stolen money back.

Last edited by Green Irish Eyes; 10-21-2010 at 08:37 PM.. Reason: Please discuss the topic, not each other.
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