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Old 10-06-2010, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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When Ron Paulies would approach me in 2008, I would ask them why I should vote for him when he wants to cut entitlements for disabled Americans. They would go into their looong spiel. Then I would say I don't want to support Ron Paul's government housing and government benefits and government paycheck if he's in the White House, so I will quit paying my taxes if he wins
It's not a long spiel. Once again another false accusation to make your weak point.
It's immoral to steal. Have you been able to grasp that yet?
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:39 AM
 
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The sense of guilt one gets when they inherit money and don't have to work for a living makes people do strange things.
Um...we're in that demographic. We're far from rich, and we were born with plastic spoons in our mouths vs. silver ones. It's called pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, but getting help along the way (like public education, student loans) to get you there. I think we've given back our fair share.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:40 AM
 
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Um...we're in that demographic. We're far from rich, and we were born with plastic spoons in our mouths vs. silver ones. It's called pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, but getting help along the way (like public education, student loans) to get you there. I think we've given back our fair share.
I forgot to add Pell grants...but you get my point.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Taxation is not theft. It is the dues paid to be a member of a group. In this case a group called US Citizens that elected representatives that determined the tax rates.

The excess money extorted by the petroleum industry by monopoly control of supplies and prices is theft because it is both illegal and not agreed upon by consumers or determined by a free and open market. This monopoly costs most people far more than taxes.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Rand Paul, Paladino, Miller, Angle...are there any teabagger candidates who haven't been the beneficiaries of government money?

The Plum Line - Tea Partyers on the dole
The word is Tea Party boy. Leave your sexual fantasies out of it please. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

People are sheep and don't understand the price fixing lowers competition which lowers quality.
You want doctors to make less money by turning patients away because of their belief in the inefficient, and costly system?
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Taxation is not theft. It is the dues paid to be a member of a group. In this case a group called US Citizens that elected representatives that determined the tax rates.

The excess money extorted by the petroleum industry by monopoly control of supplies and prices is theft because it is both illegal and not agreed upon by consumers or determined by a free and open market. This monopoly costs most people far more than taxes.
Nothing wrong with user taxes, however income tax is straight out theft. How can you not see this? It is not theft when it supports your causes, understood.
Someone who determines the tax rate hmmm how is that not price fixing?
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:48 AM
 
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I've never feel threatened by toilet paper except when I wonder the day we can't wipe our own butts anymore because scott outsourced to china.
Some days I just love this board...
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:51 AM
 
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Um...we're in that demographic. We're far from rich, and we were born with plastic spoons in our mouths vs. silver ones. It's called pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, but getting help along the way (like public education, student loans) to get you there. I think we've given back our fair share.
So you like higher taxes and believe it's better to have the gov't handle your charitable work?
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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And I'd say you're wrong. That's a high school level stereotype of Democrats or liberals - "they don't work, they just take." Not reflected by reality.
Way to misconstrue what I said. Members of the Tea Party tend to be wealthier than the general public, and hence pay more in taxes because of that fact. And this is according to the NYT/CBS polling data...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us...cs/15poll.html

Sounds like you are suffering from grade school level liberal insecurity complex.
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Old 10-06-2010, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Don't be a cry baby!
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Rand Paul, Paladino, Miller, Angle...are there any teabagger candidates who haven't been the beneficiaries of government money?
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No, probably not. Most of the Tea-Baggers I know are quit wealthy (as I’m sure most are) and don’t need government hand outs. But then again, most of the Tea-Baggers I know aren’t in the political spot light. The “on the dole” Tea-Baggers” you mention are riding the coat-tails of the Tea Party movement and IMO aren’t real Tea-Baggers to begin with (although they are employed and hence they are not completely “on the dole”). Good call though.
What I find funny is how so many people, mostly lefties, are afraid of Tea-Baggers to the point of being phobic; It reminds me of an article I read about homophobia where the homophobes are really homosexual in nature but in strong denial. Perhaps this is the case with the leftist here that focus on the term “Tea-Baggers” as a joint fantasy in the realm of homosexuality (or sexual covetousness) and class envoy. I would have never thought to look at a group of middle aged white guys (who are wealthy) then connect the term tea-baggers. But again, I am a confident, educated, Tea-Bagging, employed heterosexual who is above the poverty line and was taught years ago not to throw mud. But I guess a little mud can wash off.

I think the new term for these folks afraid of Tea-Baggers could be “blanco-androphobia” or “Dikephobia”

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