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Old 11-06-2010, 08:45 AM
 
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Be pretty hard to shoot him with your arms pinned down to the ground.
Yeah it would, but if a bad guy has both my arms pinned he can't hit me either. I have taken my fair share of beatings and mostly my arms are not pinned down.

Often times one arm or the other is, but not both. This is why i carry a back up gun in the first place. More or less I should be able to get to one of them even if I have been taken by surprise.

If a mug has me on the ground in a head lock and is punching me in the face or stabbing me in the guts. I still have a chance to live if i can access either gun.

It is a chance, not a sure win.

If i am grabbed from behind, the way my carry system works the mug will be shot thru the chest and right from the holster if I can get my hand on the grips.

If that arm is pinned down or my coat is, then that back up comes into play. And I may not need to clear that weapon either, and fire it from with in my own clothing. It might set me on fire, but a little fire on my clothing is a lesser price to pay than my life.

A mug has to let go at some point, just to get what he wants. Unless I am dead at that point he will not have the best day of his life.

The tricky part is understanding what the mug wants. If that is my car or wallet he can have them. If it's my life well there is gonna be a fight.

I am a lot older and more broken than you are. The tool called gun is just much more reasonable. I have had several occasions to use them, and discovered bad guys really don't like the idea they may be shot.

No one wants to be first. This lends to the idea that guns are used every day for self defence and are not fired. That ends up a win win for everybody IMO.. Bad Guy learns his lesson and I get to live another day.
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I can pin BOTH your arms with one of mine--that would give me another arm.
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Old 11-06-2010, 05:12 PM
 
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I can pin BOTH your arms with one of mine--that would give me another arm.
You don't know that. Like I said i have taken some beatings in the past and in general it takes 6 guys to dish that out. In the process some of them even took a lick or two.
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Old 11-06-2010, 05:16 PM
 
Location: California
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I can pin BOTH your arms with one of mine--that would give me another arm.
can you leap a tall building in a single bound?
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Old 11-06-2010, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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It was my general thought/presumption that most people do not have/own guns - -especially in a urban area (vs. farm country where I can easily assume people have guns). During multiple conversations with my neighbors over the last year or so I realized that most of them do own firearms.

Not sure if my area is an exception or if my assumptions were wrong. When I mentioned to one of my neighbors that I have none, they were extremely surprised and suggested 'I get on it.' I live in a large city, not somewhere isolated or in farm country and in a relatively safe neighborhood and owning firearms never came to my mind.

So this bring the question. Does your household owns firearms?
Do you think each household should?
Do many of your neighbors/friends own firearms?

Just curious as to what people think of this.
Damn skippy!!!
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Old 11-06-2010, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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can you leap a tall building in a single bound?
I could demonstrate it on you, if you were around. But if you aren't aware that it's possible, then you're speaking from a position of ignorance on the matter. I've done it more than once.

My goal, when fighting, is to disable my attacker so that he doesn't even think of coming after me.
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Old 11-06-2010, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I can pin BOTH your arms with one of mine--that would give me another arm.

Knock it off Kramer - your braggin' ain't impressin' no one here - does make us laugh at you though!

Frankly - if you were approaching me and I felt threatened - you'd have no time to pin my little pinkie - because you would be dead.

Got it bucko??
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Old 11-06-2010, 06:19 PM
 
Location: California
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I could demonstrate it on you, if you were around. But if you aren't aware that it's possible, then you're speaking from a position of ignorance on the matter. I've done it more than once.

My goal, when fighting, is to disable my attacker so that he doesn't even think of coming after me.
So you can leap a building in a single bound Wow
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Old 11-06-2010, 06:31 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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So you can leap a building in a single bound Wow
It's the incredible amazing super mall ninja...
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Old 11-06-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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So you can leap a building in a single bound Wow
It's easy for you to minimize the skills of someone you've never met, isn't it? If I ever fought you, you wouldn't forget it, and you'd learn something called respect.
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