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Old 12-07-2010, 08:28 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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So the top two percent get to keep their tax cuts during a time of historic deficit and unemployment levels. What does this say?

1. The Republicans were successful in holding 98% of the American public and unemployed workers hostage for their sake of their rich benefactors.

2. Since it has been documented to death that only a few percent of small business owners who tax their income through personal taxes as business income overlap with the top two percent, this will do virtually nothing for small business and employment growth.

3. Since most of the top wealthy folks in this country are not going to spend that incremental piece of cash they get, the impact on the economy is going to be nothing to write about.

4. For this minimal gain, we just added another $700B to the deficit, which is nearing the magnitude of Obama's old stimulus plan.

5. Since both Republicans and Democrats have helped Big Business for years to outsource millions of well-paying jobs overseas, and since there are now simply not enough jobs for those previously employed Americans to earn a living, we are basically just continuing to concentrate wealth in the hands of the very top few wealthy hands while we build a massive underclass of impoverished people - and then blame them for "being lazy".


I say all of this as a person in one of those top two percent of households, which I frankly can't even believe that I am. I have no problem with rich people, and I think they deserve to keep being rich...but this used to be a nation that also provided some opportunity for middle and lower class people, too. That's no longer the case; we've become an oligarchy.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:32 AM
 
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So the top two percent get to keep their tax cuts during a time of historic deficit and unemployment levels. What does this say?

1. The Republicans were successful in holding 98% of the American public and unemployed workers hostage for their sake of their rich benefactors.

2. Since it has been documented to death that only a few percent of small business owners who tax their income through personal taxes as business income overlap with the top two percent, this will do virtually nothing for small business and employment growth.

3. Since most of the top wealthy folks in this country are not going to spend that incremental piece of cash they get, the impact on the economy is going to be nothing to write about.

4. For this minimal gain, we just added another $700B to the deficit, which is nearing the magnitude of Obama's old stimulus plan.

5. Since both Republicans and Democrats have helped Big Business for years to outsource millions of well-paying jobs overseas, and since there are now simply not enough jobs for those previously employed Americans to earn a living, we are basically just continuing to concentrate wealth in the hands of the very top few wealthy hands while we build a massive underclass of impoverished people - and then blame them for "being lazy".


I say all of this as a person in one of those top two percent of households, which I frankly can't even believe that I am. I have no problem with rich people, and I think they deserve to keep being rich...but this used to be a nation that also provided opportunities for middle and lower class people, too. We've become an oligarchy.
What are you waiting for then? Cut a check to the Treasury to make up for the taxes you think you should be paying! Anyone who cries about the cuts being extended WHILE they are one of those in that tax bracket AND NOT sending in more taxes like they think they should be paying is nothing more than a hypocritical belly acher. SEND THAT CHECK!
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Here
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What are you waiting for then? Cut a check to the Treasury to make up for the taxes you think you should be paying! Anyone who cries about the cuts being extended WHILE they are one of those in that tax bracket AND NOT sending in more taxes like they think they should be paying is nothing more than a hypocritical belly acher. SEND THAT CHECK!
Don't hold your breath waiting on that to happen.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:35 AM
 
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Nowhere in your 5 points do you mention excessive government spending.
The left certainly has a blind spot.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:37 AM
 
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What are you waiting for then? Cut a check to the Treasury to make up for the taxes you think you should be paying! Anyone who cries about the cuts being extended WHILE they are one of those in that tax bracket AND NOT sending in more taxes like they think they should be paying is nothing more than a hypocritical belly acher. SEND THAT CHECK!
Even if ambient decided to do that and send more money into the IRS, they would send it back. The tax law, is the tax law, is the tax law. It's not like a mortgage payment where you can choose to pay more.

The best ambient can do in this situation, is try to employ someone.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:38 AM
 
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So the top two percent get to keep their tax cuts during a time of historic deficit and unemployment levels. What does this say?

1. The Republicans were successful in holding 98% of the American public and unemployed workers hostage for their sake of their rich benefactors.

2. Since it has been documented to death that only a few percent of small business owners who tax their income through personal taxes as business income overlap with the top two percent, this will do virtually nothing for small business and employment growth.

3. Since most of the top wealthy folks in this country are not going to spend that incremental piece of cash they get, the impact on the economy is going to be nothing to write about.

4. For this minimal gain, we just added another $700B to the deficit, which is nearing the magnitude of Obama's old stimulus plan.

5. Since both Republicans and Democrats have helped Big Business for years to outsource millions of well-paying jobs overseas, and since there are now simply not enough jobs for those previously employed Americans to earn a living, we are basically just continuing to concentrate wealth in the hands of the very top few wealthy hands while we build a massive underclass of impoverished people - and then blame them for "being lazy".


I say all of this as a person in one of those top two percent of households, which I frankly can't even believe that I am. I have no problem with rich people, and I think they deserve to keep being rich...but this used to be a nation that also provided some opportunity for middle and lower class people, too. That's no longer the case; we've become an oligarchy.
You can't have it both ways. People like you claim the rich don't pay any taxes because the get their income from investments not salary. Plus they have access to all the loop holes.

Second, you talk as if only the repubs are rich. Don't you think the dems rich benifactors will benefit also?

Give detail where you get the figure of $700B from.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:40 AM
 
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Even if ambient decided to do that and send more money into the IRS, they would send it back. The tax law, is the tax law, is the tax law. It's not like a mortgage payment where you can choose to pay more.

The best ambient can do in this situation, is try to employ someone.
You can make donations to the Treasury for tax or deficit/debt purposes. They will NEVER turn down free money.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Apparently the Republicans are willing to add to the deficit by extending unemployment $$$ if they can also decrease the incoming revenue by extending tax cuts to the wealthy.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You can make donations to the Treasury for tax or deficit/debt purposes. They will NEVER turn down free money.
I bet the millionaires and billionaires will never send a check!

They will spend their money vacationing in Europe.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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So the top two percent get to keep their tax cuts during a time of historic deficit and unemployment levels. What does this say?

1. The Republicans were successful in holding 98% of the American public and unemployed workers hostage for their sake of their rich benefactors.

2. Since it has been documented to death that only a few percent of small business owners who tax their income through personal taxes as business income overlap with the top two percent, this will do virtually nothing for small business and employment growth.

3. Since most of the top wealthy folks in this country are not going to spend that incremental piece of cash they get, the impact on the economy is going to be nothing to write about.

4. For this minimal gain, we just added another $700B to the deficit, which is nearing the magnitude of Obama's old stimulus plan.

5. Since both Republicans and Democrats have helped Big Business for years to outsource millions of well-paying jobs overseas, and since there are now simply not enough jobs for those previously employed Americans to earn a living, we are basically just continuing to concentrate wealth in the hands of the very top few wealthy hands while we build a massive underclass of impoverished people - and then blame them for "being lazy".


I say all of this as a person in one of those top two percent of households, which I frankly can't even believe that I am. I have no problem with rich people, and I think they deserve to keep being rich...but this used to be a nation that also provided some opportunity for middle and lower class people, too. That's no longer the case; we've become an oligarchy.
1) the dems still control the house and Senate it will take Dems to pass it so your post is exposed and a political hack troll post wih no merit
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