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Old 01-03-2011, 07:08 PM
 
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:10 PM
 
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:14 PM
 
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So you are in favor of scrapping the school lunch program that has been around for >60 years? You're going to have some awfully angry farmers. And why should anyone tell kids to exercise any more than they should tell them what to eat? Why does it matter who is doing the "telling"?

PLease note I'm saying this as devil's advocate; I have no problem with PE in schools.
School programs should not rest on the appeasement of any special interest group. P.E. is a recognized School Subject that was part of the educational process long before the Feds started to get involved. Then came the Federal Testing mandates including NCLB (and yes, I am aware that was not this adm. doing) with their carrot of Fed. Funding dangling contingent on test results and away went all the extras that individual states could choose to offer so the schools could teach to the test and teach what the Fed Gov wanted taught. And it is only getting worse. Now, the Fed Gov is telling us what Michelle Obama thinks is healthy is what we can offer to feed the kids in school and what kind of fundraising we can do. And now the schools are using our tax money to feed more meals to kids in school. (Not just lunch, and then breakfast and now dinners.) It is too much Federal Control/Spending. The States used to be in control of the schools long before the Dept. of Education was founded. That meant more local input and more parental input. That was good! That is my opinion and I know yours is different and, at least for the time being, until Michelle Obama deems its unhealthy and we should all be thinking the same thoughts, that's fine. America = Freedom & Individuality. Not imprisoned in someones's Utopian Fantasy.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:24 PM
 
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School programs should not rest on the appeasement of any special interest group. P.E. is a recognized School Subject that was part of the educational process long before the Feds started to get involved. Then came the Federal Testing mandates including NCLB (and yes, I am aware that was not this adm. doing) with their carrot of Fed. Funding dangling contingent on test results and away went all the extras that individual states could choose to offer so the schools could teach to the test and teach what the Fed Gov wanted taught. And it is only getting worse. Now, the Fed Gov is telling us what Michelle Obama thinks is healthy is what we can offer to feed the kids in school and what kind of fundraising we can do. And now the schools are using our tax money to feed more meals to kids in school. (Not just lunch, and then breakfast and now dinners.) It is too much Federal Control/Spending. The States used to be in control of the schools long before the Dept. of Education was founded. That meant more local input and more parental input. That was good! That is my opinion and I know yours is different and, at least for the time being, until Michelle Obama deems its unhealthy and we should all be thinking the same thoughts, that's fine. America = Freedom & Individuality. Not imprisoned in someones's Utopian Fantasy.
You really need to study up on school funding. The feds provide a small portion of most school's budget (usually < 10% including the school lunch program). The school lunch program is NOT something new, nor are school breakfasts, and there have always been requirements for what the lunches contain. Link after link has been posted in this thread about these issue. I'm not looking them up again. Do a search through this thread.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:31 PM
 
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You really need to study up on school funding. The feds provide a small portion of most school's budget (usually < 10% including the school lunch program). The school lunch program is NOT something new, nor are school breakfasts, and there have always been requirements for what the lunches contain. Link after link has been posted in this thread about these issue. I'm not looking them up again. Do a search through this thread.
I am fully aware of these facts. None of which change my mind/opinion. Yes. We already have Federally funded school lunches with requirements for the nutritional value of those lunches.( And no, President Regan, Ketchup does NOT constitute a vegetable.) We do NOT need any more regulations, especially not from Michelle Obama. I would like to see LESS Federal Regulation in the schools. NOT more.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:38 PM
 
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I am fully aware of these facts. None of which change my mind/opinion. Yes. We already have Federally funded school lunches with requirements for the nutritional value of those lunches.( And no, President Regan, Ketchup does NOT constitute a vegetable.) We do NOT need any more regulations, especially not from Michelle Obama. I would like to see LESS Federal Regulation in the schools. NOT more.
Michelle Obama did not write this bill. Please review "How a bill becomes a law".
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:46 PM
 
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Michelle Obama did not write this bill. Please review "How a bill becomes a law".
Oh, stop with the "lessons." Good grief, woman. We are obviously worlds apart on political philosophies. Me: Small Government/Individual Rights & Responsibilities = You: Big Government/Common Good =

Face it. We are not going to agree. Shall we just give it a rest? (I have a nutricious dinner of my own choosing I need to go and prepare for my kids!) Have a good evening.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:48 PM
 
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Even worse: Laura Bush wanted children to read books! Just outrageous!
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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Oh, stop with the "lessons." Good grief, woman. We are obviously worlds apart on political philosophies. Me: Small Government/Individual Rights & Responsibilities = You: Big Government/Common Good =

Face it. We are not going to agree. Shall we just give it a rest? (I have a nutricious dinner of my own choosing I need to go and prepare for my kids!) Have a good evening.
You're quite the mind reader. If you don't want to discuss the issue, don't post.
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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You're quite the mind reader. If you don't want to discuss the issue, don't post.
Honey, we HAVE discussed the issue...at length. And now, I don't know about you, but I have a life. Feel free to post, there are many other posters with lots of opinions.
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