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That's what you get when lunatics brutally gun down people.
So sorry that you don't believe this should be up for discussion, you might change your mind if that was your 9 year old, or your father, husband, wife, etc.
That's the whole point. Why should more gun control laws be enacted, which would eliminate approximately 1% of the crime? Admittedly, Loughner purchased his firearm legally ... but he is among that 1% of the criminally insane. The overwhelming majority of gun owners are not violent miscreants ... they are decent, law abiding citizens who advocate carrying weapons for the purpose of defending themselves against a**holes like Loughner.
Besides, we already have plenty of gun laws as it is. For instance: remember the Brady Bill, which became law in 1993? All the gun control advocates at the time said how that law would reduce the chances of the criminally insane obtaining firearms. Well, it obviously didn't stop the Columbine incident, the Virginia Tech shootings, or this psycho in Tucson!
Hey, here's an idea: instead of imposing more restrictions on our Constitutional rights, how about letting the punishment fit the crime? Eliminate the number of appeals, and carry out the death penalty in a swift, quick manner in the same method the criminal used to kill his victims! Punishment can be more of a deterrent than anything else.
Those that have been adjudicated mentally defective are already prohibited from possessing firearms. While it's true that too many slip through the cracks the alternative (in my opinion) is worse.
Without substantial limitation something as innocuous as obtaining a prescription for Wellbutrin (an antidepressant) to aid in in smoking cessation could well disqualify a person from owning a firearm. A diagnosis of PTSD in combat vet could also be a disqualifier. Such a diagnosis could come from something as simple as a sleep disorder.
Giving government unlimited power to define mental illness is a recipe for disaster.
You are right, some people after a loss of a family member etc may need a drug for awhile, they should not be classed as mental illness and a threat to society.
That's the whole point. Why should more gun control laws be enacted, which would eliminate approximately 1% of the crime? Admittedly, Loughner purchased his firearm legally ... but he is among that 1% of the criminally insane. The overwhelming majority of gun owners are not violent miscreants ... they are decent, law abiding citizens who advocate carrying weapons for the purpose of defending themselves against a**holes like Loughner.
Besides, we already have plenty of gun laws as it is. For instance: remember the Brady Bill, which became law in 1993? All the gun control advocates at the time said how that law would reduce the chances of the criminally insane obtaining firearms. Well, it obviously didn't stop the Columbine incident, the Virginia Tech shootings, or this psycho in Tucson!
Hey, here's an idea: instead of imposing more restrictions on our Constitutional rights, how about letting the punishment fit the crime? Eliminate the number of appeals, and carry out the death penalty in a swift, quick manner in the same method the criminal used to kill his victims! Punishment can be more of a deterrent than anything else.
I'm sure you feel that you'd like that last paragraph to occur, until it's you or your family that's been wrongly accused and sentenced.
How many people have been exhonorated with DNA or other evidence after trial?
Until gun owners meet a means test, they shouldn't be permitted access to a gun.
Answers.com - How many gun owners are there in the United States of America Number of guns and gun owners in USA.
Most estimates range between 39% and 50% of US households having at least one gun(thats about 43-55 million households). The estimates for the number of privately owned guns range from 190 million to 300 million. Removed those that skew the stats for thier own purposes the best estimates are about 45% or 52 million of american households owning 260 million guns).
there are about 80 million gun owners in America with a combining total of 258 million guns
1% of 80,000,000 = 800,000 crazies with guns.
That's significant.
Originally Posted by the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
However, after reading through this thread, and in prior discussions, it appears that most people do feel that the right to keep and bear arms can be infringed upon in some way.
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Originally Posted by infringers based upon the individual
felons, people with mental illness of people not of a certain age should not have the right to keep and bear arms
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Originally Posted by infringers based upon the type of arm
people should not be allowed to keep nuclear weapons
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Originally Posted by infringers based upon regulation
the government may infringe by requiring, for example, registration
I've encountered a very few people who didn't fall into one of these categories. As such, these discussions/arguments are almost impossible to resolve. We are not discussing absolutes, but rather points on spectrums. Since we are discussing spectrums there can be only one clear cut-off point-that of zero regulation.
And few people want that.
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are they supposed to go into a crack house without a gun?
