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Old 01-20-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by oz in SC View Post
LOOK!!!

You have no message quoted.

If a woman was having sex every day,perhaps she might try...birth control?
And yes,being diligent isn't a lot to ask really,from BOTH parties.

If BOTH parties are equally responsible,BOTH parties should share in the decision making...

I guess as long as you aren't one of the thousand babies aborted....

Sigh....no it is not a personal attack,it is interesting.
Would you mind answering the question,it is actually interesting to me.
what is it about birth control failing or a woman not knowing she is pregnant do you not want to admit to or consider?
women who use birth control also have abortions. are you saying if you have sex you should have the baby even if you are doing your best to not get pregnant?

I find it interesting you don't want to acknowledge this.

not sure what you want me question you want me to answer you find interesting?

do you think life begins at conception but you are still ok with abortion up to a few weeks but not, say 8 or 9 weeks?
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:46 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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what is it about birth control failing or a woman not knowing she is pregnant do you not want to admit to or consider?
I am suggesting that perhaps just some forethought and care and diligence we might not need 1,000,000+ abortions a year....

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women who use birth control also have abortions. are you saying if you have sex you should have the baby even if you are doing your best to not get pregnant?
Personally that would indeed be the case.

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I find it interesting you don't want to acknowledge this.
Acknowledge what?

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not sure what you want me question you want me to answer you find interesting?
I am not sure what you are even stating here....LOL
Edit,okay this is the question:

Do you support pushing back the time period one can have an abortion as viability is also pushed back?


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do you think life begins at conception but you are still ok with abortion up to a few weeks but not, say 8 or 9 weeks?
Well...yes life begins at conception,when else would it start?
Yes, abortion prior to serious development is about it.

It is like this,a chicken egg can actually be fertilised by the rooster even when you eat it,but you cannot tell,however once there is a little chick in there that is nasty.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:50 PM
 
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That is just disgusting. Why go as far as killing the babies though. I have never understood that. There are so many people out there who want to adopt.
This is kinda my take on it. If a fetus is indeed viable, why not take it out alive and put it up for adoption? ESPECIALLY if late in a pregnancy... it's like those kids who dropped out of high school the last semester of senior year!
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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what is it about birth control failing or a woman not knowing she is pregnant do you not want to admit to or consider?
women who use birth control also have abortions. are you saying if you have sex you should have the baby even if you are doing your best to not get pregnant?

I find it interesting you don't want to acknowledge this.

not sure what you want me question you want me to answer you find interesting?

do you think life begins at conception but you are still ok with abortion up to a few weeks but not, say 8 or 9 weeks?
Rarely does birth control fail when both consenting adults are utilizing it correctly. If a woman doesn't want a baby then the woman should learn her fertility cycle, monitor it, and avoid even protected sex during that brief monthly interval; or, if she is too irresponsible, she should have her tubes tied during her 1st abortion.

Last edited by CaseyB; 01-20-2011 at 06:19 PM.. Reason: off topic
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Yes, abortion prior to serious development is about it.
That's hilarious. So you have determined that "serious development" occurs kinda somewhere around about early on? That's a scientific statement is it? Any data to back that up?

We have posted links to sites detailing fetal viability and how it is determined from a scientific point of view, and you have consistently decried it, now you state all on your own that abortion is okay prior to "serious development"? Wow, just wow. Just can't make this stuff up.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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OKAY!!!
Enough with all the colors....
I have noticed they never have explained how one can say your pro choice and be againt abortions. Seems to me if it is the woman body and the womans choice that means she can kill when she wants
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I have noticed they never have explained how one can say your pro choice and be againt abortions. Seems to me if it is the woman body and the womans choice that means she can kill when she wants
Um....are you forgetting about Roe v. Wade? There are guidelines set, as has already been discussed extensively. These guidelines are there for very sound scientific and ethical reasosn........as has already been discussed extensively. Late-term abortions are the exception, and are only available under exceptional circumstances.....as has already been discussed extensively.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:01 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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That's hilarious. So you have determined that "serious development" occurs kinda somewhere around about early on? That's a scientific statement is it? Any data to back that up?

We have posted links to sites detailing fetal viability and how it is determined from a scientific point of view, and you have consistently decried it, now you state all on your own that abortion is okay prior to "serious development"? Wow, just wow. Just can't make this stuff up.
Abortion IS legal even when the baby is viable....

Funny that more 'enlightened' nations restrict abortion much more than here....
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:01 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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But women DO know when they had sex....now perhaps I might be giving this a little too much thought but I would think I might just make sure I am NOT pregnant if I was sexually active...

Here is a couple of scenarios.

Couple have been together for 4 years. They break up. Woman is no longer having sex so maybe she does not think to take a pregnancy test and period showed up on time, just was a little lighter than usual. She has not had sex for weeks and had a period so WHY would she get a pregnancy test? Not until the following month when a period never arrives does she get suspicious. By then it is 9 weeks out.

Another example that actually happenned:

I was having a surgery and HAD to take a pregnancy test as part of the pre-op work up. It was negative, so I had the surgery and low and behold a few WEEKS later I never got a period and took a test.

Turns out I was pregnant. Pregnant DURING the surgical procedure, you should have seen the doctors horrified looks when I had to tell them and ask what it was they gave me. They were very upset and worried. Fact is, they should have been, because I ended up miscarrying a few weeks later.

These are the things that happen IN REAL LIFE. Real life does not happen like it does on TV. People's bodies are all different and bad luck and errors and stick that do not show positive when they are happen.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Um....are you forgetting about Roe v. Wade? There are guidelines set, as has already been discussed extensively. These guidelines are there for very sound scientific and ethical reasosn........as has already been discussed extensively. Late-term abortions are the exception, and are only available under exceptional circumstances.....as has already been discussed extensively.
Not interested in the legal decisions,asking proponents to support THEIR position.

You haven't yet,others have.
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