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Old 01-20-2011, 11:51 AM
 
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If this B&B were run by Muslims would you feel the same way?

It's funny how liberals think it's perfectly okay to allow muslims to discriminate against others due to their religious cult, out of respect for Islamic law, but when others invoke their religious laws against homosexuality it's flat-out bigotry.

I hope the gays enjoy visiting Londonistan in the future. Hopefully they make it out alive.

If the proprietors had been Muslim instead of Christian, the same law would still apply. That is the whole point of the law.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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Um, no... it just means they were living in denial, and finally decided to accept their true orientation. Sexuality isn't a "fluid" thing, although it can be rather complicated - read up on the Kinsey scale of sexuality if you're interested.
How do you know? Maybe they were in denial about being straight and decided to accept that they were not homosexual. Why do you get to decide which sexual preference supersedes the other?
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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If the proprietors had been Muslim instead of Christian, the same law would still apply. That is the whole point of the law.
So then you must be angry about the "gay only" B&B's that are becoming increasingly popular, correct?
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:20 PM
 
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So then you must be angry about the "gay only" B&B's that are becoming increasingly popular, correct?
Why angry? They would be expected to obey the law like everyone else.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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"Mr Preddy booked a room at the B&B in 2008 and Mrs Bull assumed he was bringing his wife with him. When he arrived with his civil partner Mr Hall, the pair were refused a double room by the manager Bernie Quinn, who instead offered them seperate single rooms."

"Outside court Mrs Bull said the result was a disappointment. 'Our double-bed policy was based on our sincere beliefs about marriage, not hostility to anybody,' she said."

Gay Couple Win B&B Discrimination Case Against Christian Owners, Damages Of £1,800 Each | UK News | Sky News


Way to go!!! Too bad this type of discrimination against gays and lesbians - the denial of service at a hotel, restaurant, dry cleaner, etc. based on sexuality or perceived sexuality - is legal throughout most of the United States. When will the US stop treating gays and lesbians as second class citizens?
It's a sad day when a private company can't reserve the right to refuse service. Especially for religious reasons.

It's a shame that these knuckleheads get to impose their morality on other people like that.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:05 PM
 
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It's a sad day when a private company can't reserve the right to refuse service. Especially for religious reasons.

It's a shame that these knuckleheads get to impose their morality on other people like that.
Its a sad day when religious people feel that the law does not apply to them.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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Its a sad day when religious people feel that the law does not apply to them.
What law were they violating? It's a private establishment. They should be allowed by law to refuse service to anyone they want to. Especially on religious grounds.

But it's the UK, so I don't know if they have the freedom of religion there like we do.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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What law were they violating? It's a private establishment. They should be allowed by law to refuse service to anyone they want to. Especially on religious grounds.

But it's the UK, so I don't know if they have the freedom of religion there like we do.
Under English law, a commercial enterprise is required to abide by anti-discrimination legislation. It has nothing to do with freedom of religion.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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Under English law, a commercial enterprise is required to abide by anti-discrimination legislation. It has nothing to do with freedom of religion.
The US has a nearly identical law (the difference being the UK law covers discrimination based on sexual orientation, whereas the US law allows discrimination based on sexual orientation): Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the beginning of the section that deals with commercial enterprises:

"TITLE II--INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST DISCRIMINATION IN PLACES OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION
SEC. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."

So US Federal law says that a Christian hotel owner can discriminate and deny service to someone simply because he his gay, yet a gay hotel owner cannot discriminate and deny service because someone is a Christian. Seems fair to me
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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Under English law, a commercial enterprise is required to abide by anti-discrimination legislation. It has nothing to do with freedom of religion.
I find it sad that the activities of a very small minority can trump the personal religious convictions of a private business owner.

It would be one thing if they ran the only hotel in town and they turned someone out on their ears on a cold winter's night. It's not like they run a company that is vital to the safety or security of the public.
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