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Explained this in a different post, but "we" is the whole. No one part of the whole can fix a problem. In our world the fifteen minutes of fame has gotten too long, so now we like litte quick summaries of a sentence. This can't communicate an idea. So we hear the shortened version and miss the whole context.
The government, as a group of individuals guided by laws and conventions, must take responsibility to look at the reality rather than fight within itself. People must learn to see beyond the quicky summaries that fit in a sentence and look at all the ideas can represent, not just now but later. I hope we have not been dummed down so much this is lost. And instead of agendas and sides, everyone needs to start thinking in terms of ideas over partasian sides. All the hate that is being spewed is obscuring the deepening problems, but it makes people feel better when they have nice pat answers so they don't ask the questions that need to be asked.
In short "we" is everyone who is effected because everyone is a part.
Using your definition, "we" do not agree that the economic downturn is over. You might want to warn people when you use the "Royal" pronoun, because otherwise it appears as if you are speaking for them.
Todays economy is worse then at ANY time under Bush for 8 years.
At no time did Americans hurt as bad as they are today under Obamas watch under Bush.
52 consecutive months of job growth under Bush. If you wanted to work you could find a job.
Under Obama, 23 consecutive months of job losses and you cannot find a job to save your butt.
We are in the worst economic times since the depression and getting worse every day.
Stop the stock market BS people.
Only the rich successful people ( who lefties hate ) can invest in the stock market right now ( and the loons want to tax them to death and steal their money ) and the middle class and poor cannot invest because of this current economic mess under Obama.
On one hand the loons hate successful people but then turn around and applaud the successful rich people for investing in the stock market.
[quote=EinsteinsGhost;17558137]I wasn't aware that it took five years after the crash in 1929 to be seen as a financial disaster of mega-proportions. I'm pretty sure politicians weren't finding support for claiming... "the fundamentals of American economy are strong" even couple of years down the road.
But in reality, I see this current debacle only an effect of the economic health of the nation since the recession of 2001. It simply never recovered.
Thanks for pointing that out EinsteinsGhost because I was really confused by that sustained growth through 2007 and 4.4% unemployment in November of 2006.
I wasn't aware that it took five years after the crash in 1929 to be seen as a financial disaster of mega-proportions. I'm pretty sure politicians weren't finding support for claiming... "the fundamentals of American economy are strong" even couple of years down the road.
But in reality, I see this current debacle only an effect of the economic health of the nation since the recession of 2001. It simply never recovered.
Thanks for pointing that out EinsteinsGhost because I was really confused by that sustained growth through 2007 and 4.4% unemployment in November of 2006.
The United States Unemployment Rate (http://www.miseryindex.us/urbymonth.asp - broken link)
The depression happened because fdr stole everything from people,metals,gold,silver then shut down the banks. If you had property, and the Deed was in the bank in a security box,when fdr reopened the banks your property was gone as well as the Deed to it. That is what caused the depression.
The depression happened because fdr stole everything from people,metals,gold,silver then shut down the banks. If you had property, and the Deed was in the bank in a security box,when fdr reopened the banks your property was gone as well as the Deed to it. That is what caused the depression.
And that can happen again. After the 2001 event, I belive all porperty was re-evaluated. It sure was in NH and in Oct 04 that deed was done. The State said it was done to lower taxes, but what happend wasn't any lowering of taxes while the tax rate did drop.
What happened was every single place in NH was re-evaluatred to be worth no less than $100,000.oo no matter what it had been worth before.
I know because I was looking at a 1930's vintage cottage. One day the asking price was $33,000.oo and the next the asking price was $165,000.oo with as much as a new nail.
The place was sold for $135,000.oo way too much, and today stands empty. I wonder why that is.......
I really don't care if it is called a depression, a recession, a slump or even a boom. And I doubt that any of the out-of-work-and-can't-find-any people that I know could care what name it is given.
I wasn't aware that it took five years after the crash in 1929 to be seen as a financial disaster of mega-proportions. I'm pretty sure politicians weren't finding support for claiming... "the fundamentals of American economy are strong" even couple of years down the road.
But in reality, I see this current debacle only an effect of the economic health of the nation since the recession of 2001. It simply never recovered.
Thanks for pointing that out EinsteinsGhost because I was really confused by that sustained growth through 2007 and 4.4% unemployment in November of 2006.
The United States Unemployment Rate (http://www.miseryindex.us/urbymonth.asp - broken link)
It was called a "jobless recovery". Easy credit..let anyone breathing go into debt so they had money, bankster money, to spend. Keep the bubble inflating so they could take out even more debt to feel like they had money.
Yeah..access to easy debt can make economies soar (on false premises).
It was called a "jobless recovery". Easy credit..let anyone breathing go into debt so they had money, bankster money, to spend. Keep the bubble inflating so they could take out even more debt to feel like they had money.
Yeah..access to easy debt can make economies soar (on false premises).
And what better way is there to gain total controll?
If the govt offered any way out, any way at all, wouldn't cold tired and hungery people jump on it?
I think I see a pattern, which is by design, no accident.
Take a look around the world folks..this is a global problem.
High unemployment, increasing poverty, inflation, anger at a government that kept the riches at the top and full of corruption.
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