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And this really is the crux of the problem and the fundamental difference in the way the left and right view people. The left view people as not as smart as them and in need of their guidence and protection. The right views people as perfectly capable of making rational decisions for themselves.
Under our current system, people are at the mercy of payers who would rather not pay and have a vested interest in minimizing consumption. And this situation will be accelerated by Obamacare.
Its not a left/right thing (and you really need to move away from that conflictual model). I do what I do and I am pretty good at it. But I am not a doctor or other health care professional. My expertise is elsewhere. So, I find a doctor that I like and trust and follow his advice. Certainly we have an informed conversation but, ultimately, he knows more about the subject than I do. People can make rational decisions but they remain dependent on health care professionals to provide them with the information to make those decisions.
Its not a left/right thing (and you really need to move away from that conflictual model). I do what I do and I am pretty good at it. But I am not a doctor or other health care professional. My expertise is elsewhere. So, I find a doctor that I like and trust and follow his advice. Certainly we have an informed conversation but, ultimately, he knows more about the subject than I do. People can make rational decisions but they remain dependent on health care professionals to provide them with the information to make those decisions.
It really is a left right thing. The left, for the most part believes in larger government because they view the people as too weak to take care of themselves. The right prefers smaller government because they believe in the primacy of the individual.
I understand your reliance on your health care profession, it is wise. I am equally sure you chose that person with care and you have a great deal of trust in them as a clinician and an ethical person. I would suspect you would trust that person to do what is in your best interest or you would select another provider of health care. I have confidence in you to select the person who will act in your best interest.
It really is a left right thing. The left, for the most part believes in larger government because they view the people as too weak to take care of themselves. The right prefers smaller government because they believe in the primacy of the individual.
I understand your reliance on your health care profession, it is wise. I am equally sure you chose that person with care and you have a great deal of trust in them as a clinician and an ethical person. I would suspect you would trust that person to do what is in your best interest or you would select another provider of health care. I have confidence in you to select the person who will act in your best interest.
As a society, we have accepted that we will pick up health care costs of those unwilling or unable to pay. That could be seniors, the poor, veterans, etc.. This isn't a left/right thing. It is as much Reagan or Bush as it is Clinton or Obama. In addition, the public expects to be protected from bad doctors, bad nurses or bad drugs. Because of the above, you can never take government out of health care.
It really is a left right thing. The left, for the most part believes in larger government because they view the people as too weak to take care of themselves. The right prefers smaller government because they believe in the primacy of the individual.
How about the idea that the left prefers government to be involved while the right wants no government intervention, that it should be an all-private-enterprise affair?
The problem with your argument is that it suggests a "small government", implying, government should stay out of the way unless private businesses can't handle it... then the government should intrude.
I don't think this country was founded on that notion, although the idea has been practiced by many politicians in other countries a few decades ago. There is another thread being discussed about the mandate imposed on all seamen so as to cover everybody and government run hospitals (I have not been participating in that discussion so I don't know if you're). The notion of "you're on your own" wouldn't involve any step like that.
Republican Paul Ryan, now chairman of the House budget committee, supports rationing health care for US seniors. His plan to voucherize Medicare is the classic example of rationing care. Under his plan the government would only give seniors a voucher for a certain amount of money and any extra cost would be paid by senior citizens themselves. His plan is to slowly shrink Medicare voucher checks over time leaving senior citizens left to pay more and more for health care.
Why does Paul Ryan and the Republicans want to pull the plug on grandma?
I hope he is updating his resume, NEVER pissoff the retires you Will get voted out.
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As a society, we have accepted that we will pick up health care costs of those unwilling or unable to pay. That could be seniors, the poor, veterans, etc.. This isn't a left/right thing. It is as much Reagan or Bush as it is Clinton or Obama. In addition, the public expects to be protected from bad doctors, bad nurses or bad drugs. Because of the above, you can never take government out of health care.
Picking up the tab for those who can't afford it is one thing, Obamacare is another thing entirely. I am not willing to pick up the tab for someone who is "unwilling' to pay.
Who said take government out of health care? I am for liscensing health care providers and the FDA etc.
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