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Old 03-28-2011, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Southwest Nebraska
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A VERY small percentage of people are fat because of a medical condidtion.

The MAJORITY of fat people have the option to quit overeating.
Hi, I am a fat arse , thanks for reminding me. If only I would have used the option of standing 2 feet farther away from the backhoe that hit me in the left hip, I would not be fat and disabled by now.

Crap happens all the time and just to stop eating so much does not work. I have severe osteoarthritis in my left hip and unable to walk much or do just about anything. That caused me to gain a lot of weight over the last 4yrs.

This accident happened 30 yrs ago and I was told I would need an hip operation later in life. But as I got older, I had to quit work and weight gain soon overtook me.

I now pay a personal trainer 250/mo and work out three times a week and am on a 1500 calorie diet. I have lost 30 lbs. in 60 days and still need to lose 220 lbs. more before I can have hip surgery.

Until I got SSDI I had no income to help myself but waiting 3 plus yrs for help, caused me these health problems. I am SORRY I offend skinny, perfect people so much, but would rather be in my shoes then yours.

Too many people today only look at the outside and don't take the time
or interest to find out whats going on inside a person. It is so much easier to throw around insults, accusations, and assumptions without getting all the facts. It is not fair to lump everyone into one category.
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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A person's weight does not dictate level of health. At my heaviest (which was obese), I still ran most days of the week for six miles a pop at a 9:30 minute pace. My diet was better than most thin people I know. My bloodwork was excellent. What's unhealthy about that? The only reason I wanted to lose the excess weight was to appear healthy (I wanted my outside to reflect my insides), not that the weight loss actually made me healthier. This isn't to say that obesity cannot aggravate or bring on health issues, just that "fat people are unhealthy" is too broad a statement, especially when it's being used as a taxation reason.

On a side note, to add on to a previous poster's sentiment about carbs, my weight loss only happened by lowering carbs and upping fats--especially saturated ones; lowering calories didn't do diddly squat for my body. Many people, including my doctor, advised me not to go this route. So glad I didn't listen!
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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I can think of someone who would oppose such a tax.


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Old 03-28-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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.... Crap happens all the time and just to stop eating so much does not work. ..... Too many people today only look at the outside and don't take the time or interest to find out whats going on inside a person. It is so much easier to throw around insults, accusations, and assumptions without getting all the facts. It is not fair to lump everyone into one category.
What you say rings true to me. People cope with life's difficulties in varying ways, eating is just one of them. People are worth more than their dress size.
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:01 AM
 
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On a side note, to add on to a previous poster's sentiment about carbs, my weight loss only happened by lowering carbs and upping fats--especially saturated ones; lowering calories didn't do diddly squat for my body. Many people, including my doctor, advised me not to go this route. So glad I didn't listen!
That is exactly why I touted that book upthread.

I am one of those "lucky" people. I've been thin most of my life, even through thyroid problems. I have a great metabolism. I have had bouts of gaining too much weight but if I rein in the calories and do some exercise, I can get rid of it. Recently, I lost 12 lbs just by tracking food, cutting portions, and making better food choices. My carb intake is still fairly high but it is lower than it was and I'm working on getting my protein up. Basically, though, calories in/calories out works for me. As I said before, I have good metabolism.

On the other hand, I have people that I am VERY close with who, inspired by some things I do, have followed my lead, tracked food, done exactly what I've done and the weight either doesn't come off or comes off so slowly. I refuse to believe we are all the same and I won't take that attitude of "well, since I can do it you must be a loser and a glutton."

I believe people process different types of food differently and I have come to believe that some people are extremely sensitive to refined carbs. The studies have even proven it. When the medical community embraces this and gets off the 1970s data, only then can we address the obesity problem.

I do think very overweight people should work to educate themselves about the data that's coming out and try some different things. The other poster was right, library books are free and there are things people should try but I don't agree that's it's simple math for every one.
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Why not ?
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:21 AM
 
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Anyone who seriously considers a tax on fat people seriously needs to reconsider their ways. For you are on the path of pure evil
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:39 AM
 
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Awww, you almost had it. How does being gay affect your health? Drugs, alcohol, drinking, smoking, and then.....being gay. Yeah, you just couldn't get it right, could you?
What about aids?
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:49 AM
 
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What about aids?
That's no longer a "gay" disease.
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:55 AM
 
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Yeah, they're pretty expensive for the US, if they're taxed you could save Medicare.What do you think about this idea ?
I doubt it would happen but something along these lines for people who refuse to take responsiblity for their own health.
Instead of a "fat tax" maybe something along the lines of a tax break for people who have a healthy lifestyle; nonsmokers, BMI within normal limits, exercise 3x week etc etc.

I had a co-worker who smoked and was asked in a physical if she did and she lied so she got a discount. After the blood test they called her on it and took it away. I say good for them.

Of course this would be hard to enforce but I think people should be rewarded for taking responsiblity for their own health and well-being.
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