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The true agenda? Do you mean their money laundering machine where union dues, originating from public sector unionized employees paid with taxpayer dollars, get used to prop up and fund Democrats? That true agenda?
It has been proven in right to work states that when employees have the choice whether or not to join a union that union membership drops dramatically. The drop in membership dues income means that unions can give less to the democrats and lose their strong-arming power.
Yep, that's the agenda. But the one tiny little part that they don't want to just come out and say is, the unions AND MOST of their members think it is the taxpayer's responsibility to bail them out and pay higher taxes to pay for their lavish benefits and pensions. They also think it is the taxpayer's duty to donate money to the DNC via union members. They will never come right out and say this, but this is their belief. I'm in a public union and I get their talking points via email and I know first hand what they try and make their members believe, and trust me, many many do fall for the propaganda.
Republicans are definitely sticking it to the middle class people. IMO they are cutting their throats down the line. There will always be another election.
The right's fascist takeover plan is blowing up in their faces nationwide. The pro-america forces are letting them have it all across the country. They can kiss any hope the right may have had for 2012 and many more years to come
No, but unions stand for what benefits the middle class. It gives them the voice against the ruling elite (or as Adam Smith called... "the masters"). Without such support, the middle class wouldn't only shrink but will eventually disappear.
What a crock of crap. But maybe not, if you consider the Union leaders all represent the middle class. Union leaders in the past and present have shown themselves to be crooks, illegitimate and incompetent people with respect to the public trust. Some past & present union leaders who represent the values of the middle class? I yi yi I am fortunate not to be in the MC....
Since the leaders represent the Unions, then the Unions by association and leadership, are as crooked as a dog's hind leg.
Mon, 05/12/2008 - 15:52 — Patrick Semmens Over at the LRC blog, a reader writes in to say how Grand Theft Auto 4, currently the best selling video game on the market, contains dialog that compares unions to the mafia. At one point the main character is told: "union's just another word for mafia."
Ultimately the pop culture video game comparison of union bosses to mafia dons is more than mere tongue-and-cheek.
As currently constituted, with their many compulsory unionism special privileges, some union officials run what could be compared to a classic mafia enterprise: the protection racket.
Wikipedia defines a protection racket as follows:
an extortion scheme whereby a powerful entity or individual coerces other less powerful entities or individuals to pay protection money which allegedly serves to purchase "protection" services against various external threats.
In the case of unions, union bosses frequently paint employers to be exploitive and then demand that workers pay money in exchange for "representation." At the same time, in forced-dues states, employees are threatened with the loss of their job if they refuse to pay for the so-called "representation," whether or not the employees want it.
And for another example of how compulsory unionism leads to union officials' involvement in organized crime, watch this video:
The ultimate point of the Mafia is to make money. Families use a variety of activities to accomplish this. One of the most common is also one of the simplest -- extortion. Extortion is forcing people to give up their money by threatening them in some way. Mafia "protection rackets" are extortion schemes. They tell a shop owner that she needs to pay them $100 a week so they can "protect" her from criminals who might demolish the shop or hurt her family -- the implication being that the Mafia members themselves are these criminals.
The Mafia makes money by participating in virtually any activity that is illegal. Illegal goods are expensive, untaxed and unregulated. Over the years, mobsters have dealt in alcohol during Prohibition, illegal drugs, prostitution and illegal gambling.
Sometimes, burglaries and muggings generate income, but the capos know that their activities need a grander scale to ensure maximum profit. This is why they hijack trucks and unload entire shipments of stolen goods. Another method used by Mafioso is to pay off truck drivers or dock workers, who will "misplace" crates and shipments that later end up in Mafia hands. The stolen goods could be anything from stereo equipment to women's clothing (a favorite of John Gotti early in his career).
[SIZE=-1]"Dapper Don" John Gotti in his 1990 mug shot[/SIZE]
One of the most notorious Mafia schemes was the infiltration of labor unions. For several decades, it is believed that every major construction project in New York City was controlled by the Mafia. Mobsters paid off or threatened union leaders to get a piece of the action whenever a union group got a construction job, and they sometimes made their way into the ranks of leadership themselves. And once the Mafia had its grip firmly on a union, it could control an entire industry. Mafioso could get workers to slow or halt construction if contractors or developers didn't make the right payoffs, and they had access to huge union pension funds
What a crock of crap. But maybe not, if you consider the Union leaders all represent the middle class. Union leaders in the past and present have shown themselves to be crooks...
No politician, no corporatist and no union leader for that matter, I believe stands for anybody but self-interest. Don’t tell me you believe that a politician has your best interest in mind. Or, do you? The focus on what unions are supposed to stand for, the policies they support. If your focus is solely on political side of things, then heaven forbid I dared to ask you a question about your beliefs of political leaders.
The right's fascist takeover plan is blowing up in their faces nationwide. The pro-america forces are letting them have it all across the country. They can kiss any hope the right may have had for 2012 and many more years to come
I think you are confused. The US Constitution and the upholding thereof is not Fascism. There is nothing pro-American about constription in to union membership in order to work in a profession. That, my confused friend, is the least American example that exists.
Maybe you forgot that union thuggary is also not "pro-American"?
In a 1996 decision, the NLRB held that a Service Employees International Union “card solicitor allegedly stated that the employee had better sign a card because if she did not, the Union would come and get her children and it would also slash her car tires.”
“In 2004, approximately 83 percent of newly organized workers were herded into unions without secret ballots,” says the National Right to Work Foundation’s Stefan Gleason. “Card-checks offer workers two basic choices: ‘Union, yes’ and ‘Union, yes.’”
This union thuggery unfolds behind a curtain of hypocrisy.
The only firm foundation of personal economic security is to be valuable to your fellow human beings. We willingly pay each other for goods and services that we need or want.
The idea that it is even possible to pay someone or some group more than they are worth should have been totally discredited by the demise of virtually every industry whose unions succeeded in extracting above-market wages.
Work rules, a hallmark of union shops, serve to reduce the value of an employee to an employer. When the production line is down, the line workers cannot go help on the loading dock?? When the computers are down, the data entry clerks can't do filing?? The engineer cannot plug in his own computer, but must wait for the union electrician?? News flash: this is BS, and we cannot afford it. If unions existed to raise the productivity and value of employees, thus enabling sustainable increases in compensation, they would have a role in modern society. To the extent that they confound employers and drive up costs, they hurt the working man.
Want a raise? Become more valuable to the rest of us. Then it cannot be denied you.
Um... the Americansdon't want to pay any more taxes. In fact, according to Gallup, 71% of Americans don't want to pay more taxes. against their will?
It's a broken record thread after thread with these exact same quotes The overwhelming amount of people support the pro-americans fighting to keep the working class from destruction.
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How do the public employee unions reconcile that with their expectation to be able to demand more from the taxpayers? against their will?
The unions have asked for ABSOLUTELY NO RAISE. They are willing to accept a PAYCUT. Something none of the corporate fat cats are willing to do. On the contrary, they have been given raises and bank rolled by Walker to the tune of 140 million dollars.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
...And wouldn't the fascists actually be the ones who expect to be able to demand more from others against their will?
The fascists are doing exactly as they are told by their masters the Kochs. Raise pay on the wealthy, lower the pay on the working class and crush the unions.
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The overwhelming amount of people support the pro-americans fighting to keep the working class from destruction. 
