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Old 03-02-2011, 07:43 AM
 
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[quote=BentBow;18098123]Didn't you yell and scream that before Nov. 2nd, 2010?Nope I didn't, thought the Repubs would win the House and not the Senate, I was correct in my prediction. Show me where I stated differently or stop assuming.

You don't like it, the Tea Baggers put up a better deal for the majority to approve. Now they see what they got as part of the Deal. I predict a huge backlash come 2012.

You can't accept it. Delusional denial.I accept it, it is the Teabagger way of doing things, claim they have a mandate from a platform they never ran on. Like claiming that the People wanted Healthcare repealed, a LIE, the People wanted it reformed, now THAT is Denial. The GOP will pay for their stupidity, count on it.
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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Owned!
Yes you are, thanks for admitting it openly.
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Ohio Anti-Union Bill Passes Senate Committee Amid Huge Protests

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The Ohio State Senate will vote this afternoon on a bill to curtail collective bargaining rights for public-sector unions, the AP reports.

More than 8,000 protesters descended on Columbus Tuesday to protest the bill, which sharply limits union negotiations, bans public worker strikes and ends binding arbitration for the state's police and firefighters.
See now, if "normal" people, meaning non-union taxpayers were so up in arms about this, there would have been more protesters, but it looks like all the opposition can muster are union members.
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:30 PM
 
Location: USA
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And this is what the right don't get. Most public sector union employees make national average salaries at best. Those "greedy teachers" in wisconsin only make on average 24K starting out and 46K for the veterans. That's hardly making massive 6 figure salaries and the other wildly inaccurate accusations that have been fed into the heads of the easily mislead.
Yep, and $24K is a joke for someone who has a 4-year degree. At that income level you're gonna be living with mommy and daddy for quite a while.

I used to be a state employee in Missouri last decade. That state ranks 49 of 50 for employee pay. I had an IT position that required a 4-year degree, but I made a whopping $6.75 an hour. People in similar positions in the private sector were making $40-45K on average. I only took the job b/c it was my first job out of school & no one in the private sector was hiring without extensive experience. As you can guess I was living with mommy and daddy, eating a lot of Ramen, and driving a $1,000 car until I found something better.
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:01 AM
 
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Agreed. Those on the far right are the same type of goons that lead to the rise of nazi germany. They obediently follow, never disagree and always defend no matter how horrible the agenda.

"All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach."

"By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise."

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."

~Adolf Hitler
Oops! You got the side wrong. The lefties are associated with the Nazi Party (link includes cited historical quotes and the Nazi Party platform):
LUSO: Socialism and Fascism
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:08 AM
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To a teacher, anything less than 13 weeks of vacation, full pension at 55 and lifetime free health care is slave labor. The rest of us who pay for this boondoggle have to pay into SS 10 years longer, collect for 10 fewer years, and we're still lucky if it's half as much. The time has come to reacquaint teachers with the real world.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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As the states try and get their fiscal houses in order, which includes public sector union reform...and we all know it. Right now they have a stranglehold on the taxpayers and the states in how/when/who they do business with.

Protests grow in Ohio as vote on union rights nears



Looks like the unions are being spread a bit thin with all these protests.

And the dems/left thought the GOP retaking the US House was the biggest of their worries.
Great news.Congrats Kasich
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:18 AM
 
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Didn't you yell and scream that before Nov. 2nd, 2010?

You don't like it, the Tea Baggers put up a better deal for the majority to approve.

You can't accept it. Delusional denial.
The Republican Party had major success in the 2010 election running on the message "Cut Government Spending".

I really have no problem with that.

But that message did NOT include "Take Away The Right To Collectively Bargain".

Because that message was NEVER clearly articulated GOP candidates effectively snookered many voters in Ohio. That will come back to haunt them on 2012.

In general folks in the Midwest don't like to be snookered and they don't like to be pushed around especially by corporate interest. The Republican Party will face the consequences for this in 2012.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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But that message did NOT include "Take Away The Right To Collectively Bargain".
Silly libs...

There is no money.

There is nothing with which to bargain.

You can scream, whine, demand, stomp your feet, and throw temper tantrums all you want, but doing so won't change the math. Doing so does, however, expose your selfishness and greed in all its ugliness for the whole nation to see. Thus, the mask has been removed...
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Oops! You got the side wrong. The lefties are associated with the Nazi Party (link includes cited historical quotes and the Nazi Party platform):
LUSO: Socialism and Fascism
From your "scholarly" article:

"The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist"

Why did Hitler hate trade unions and their bosses? Is that why he banned collective bargaining?
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