Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
"Nobody has to belong to a union or support its political activities, but you'd never know that from reading the news.
Let us begin with this simple, indisputable truth: public employees' unions don't get a single red cent from taxpayers. And they aren't a mechanism to “force” working people to support Democrats – that's completely illegal.
Public sector workers are employed by the government, but they are private citizens. Once a private citizen earns a dollar from the sweat of his or her brow, it no longer belongs to his or her employer. In the case of public workers, it is no longer a “taxpayer dollar”; it is a dollar held privately by an American citizen. Public sector unions are financed through the dues paid by these private citizens, who elected to be part of a union – not a single taxpayer dollar is involved, and no worker is forced to join a union against his or her wishes. No worker in the United States is required to give one red cent to support a political cause he or she doesn't agree with."
The article is a lie, membership is forced.
You cannot take a job in a union shop and not join the union, nor can you opt out once in, unless you quit.
Does that sound voluntary?
The article is a lie, membership is forced.
You cannot take a job in a union shop and not join the union, nor can you opt out once in, unless you quit.
Does that sound voluntary?
Membership was/is not forced for the Teacher's Union in California. I know this to be fact! How about your experience? Or are you going by hearsay? Did you read it in an email forward? See it on the interwebs? Or do you know from real life experience?
Membership was/is not forced for the Teacher's Union in California. I know this to be fact! How about your experience? Or are you going by hearsay? Did you read it in an email forward? See it on the interwebs? Or do you know from real life experience?
I'm going by experience. I have been in a union twice in my life.
Care to cite your b.s.?
Try getting a job at the construction site of the World Trade Center in NYC and NOT join a union. Actually it's opposite. If you're not a union member you won't get a job there.
Try getting a teachers license to teach in the NYC Board of Education system without joining the U.F.T. Aint gonna happen.
The article is a lie, membership is forced.
You cannot take a job in a union shop and not join the union, nor can you opt out once in, unless you quit.
Does that sound voluntary?
Why wouldn't they join, if they were not in it they would have no way to ask for a raise or a change in benefits. Plus they can always move, Texas is a right to work state but the Repub Governor his laying off teachers, so that is out.
Casper
Why wouldn't they join, if they were not in it they would have no way to ask for a raise or a change in benefits. Plus they can always move, Texas is a right to work state but the Repub Governor his laying off teachers, so that is out.
Casper
Thats another lie, both union jobs I worked I negotiaited pay above scale.
If your good you'll get it.
In Maine, about four years ago, the Democrat state legislature and the Democrat governor signed a bill they euphemistically named "Fair Share". It compels state workers who don't belong to the union to pay their "fair share" of dues to the union for the benefit they supposedly derive from the fact that their wages are the result of collective bargaining between the State and the union. It was challenged all the way to the Maine Supreme Judicial Court and upheld. Supposedly none of the "Fair Share" dues are used for the union's political activity. But we know that money is fungibile, so these nonunion state workers end up supporting political activity with which they may disagree. So much for the right of free association.
I'm going by experience. I have been in a union twice in my life.
Care to cite your b.s.?
I was in the Union in California. Care to cite your B.S?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
