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View Poll Results: What causes autism?
Defective genes 17 23.94%
Environmental toxins 4 5.63%
Vaccines 3 4.23%
A combination of vaccines and genes 4 5.63%
A combination of environmental toxins and genes 18 25.35%
A combination of vaccines and environmental toxins 10 14.08%
Something else 15 21.13%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-09-2011, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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George W. Bush.

Check the correlative statistics.
Truther alert.

 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Vaccines prevent diseases. That's a fact. You can't argue with it. Pharmaceutical companies often suck. That still has nothing to do with the fact that vaccines work, prevent disease and cost very little. It has nothing to do with the fact that without vaccines vaccine preventable illnesses would return and cause great harm.

It's like writing that governments do somethings wrong every ergo everything they do must be inherently wrong.

You can't possibly be trying to have a rational discussion with this poster, can you?
 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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You can't possibly be trying to have a rational discussion with this poster, can you?
That's nice - Eleanora has made a new friend!
 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:30 PM
 
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Truther alert.
More Toxic Jersey Syndrome.

See a doctor in Vermont.
 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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More Toxic Jersey Syndrome.

See a doctor in Vermont.

You are such a passionate Truther, I thought you would be happy to let the world know. Why do you deny who you are?
 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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You can't possibly be trying to have a rational discussion with this poster, can you?
That's more for anyone reading the thread rather than the specific poster in question.



The anti-vaccine people make me crazy. I'm pregnant. Please stop threatening the health of my baby by arguing against vaccination. This is not an abstract concept. Babies cannot get vaccinated against many diseases for the first several months of their lives. When you argue against vaccines you argue in favor of awful diseases like Hib, measles and whooping cough. All of those diseases have seen comebacks in the United States because of anti-vaccine idiocy. All are very dangerous to a baby.

The anti-vaxxers are not only wrong but terrifying, horrifying wrong. Worse, contagiously wrong. If you want to get sick then get sick. Find an island and infect yourselves to your heart's content. But if you live with others don't voluntarily refuse public health measures or court diseases deliberately out of sheer refusal to admit to factual information.
 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Someone back on page two made the correlation between autism and cancer. I concur. People will tell you that cancer is genetic and others will say it is environmental. What is unarguable is that certain cancers, in fact the really significant big killer cancers are much less known in less developed parts of the world. China for all its industrial pollution has a LONG way to go before it catches up to our breast cancer incidence. There are autism clusters in U.S. cities that strongly infer an environmental trigger for autism syndrome. Whether it be cancer, autism, global warming, infertility or AIDS the U.S. answer has always been to separate into warring camps of opinion and argue the point till the cows come home. One result of that is that in the rest of the developed world things are actually being done about some of these issues as opposed to here. If you can at all swing it, I would recommend life outside of the continental U.S. as some of the best insurance of awful medical complications for yourself or your unborn children that money can buy.

H
 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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That's more for anyone reading the thread rather than the specific poster in question.



The anti-vaccine people make me crazy. I'm pregnant. Please stop threatening the health of my baby by arguing against vaccination. This is not an abstract concept. Babies cannot get vaccinated against many diseases for the first several months of their lives. When you argue against vaccines you argue in favor of awful diseases like Hib, measles and whooping cough. All of those diseases have seen comebacks in the United States because of anti-vaccine idiocy. All are very dangerous to a baby.

The anti-vaxxers are not only wrong but terrifying, horrifying wrong. Worse, contagiously wrong. If you want to get sick then get sick. Find an island and infect yourselves to your heart's content. But if you live with others don't voluntarily refuse public health measures or court diseases deliberately out of sheer refusal to admit to factual information.

I agree, as a pharmacist I fight against seemingly invincible ignorance every day.

Congrats on your pregnancy!
 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:43 PM
 
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Reporting this post. Jenny is a friend of mine, and I find this offensive.
Back to Jenny McCarthy...can you get me an autograph? I really admire her farting and belching abilities!

Oh, and she sure does seem to like the pharma industry. Have you seen her face lately (as you claim to be a friend)? Botoxed the heck out of it. Guess she doesn't mind injecting "toxins" after all!!!!
 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Originally Posted by Eleanora1 View Post
The anti-vaccine people make me crazy. I'm pregnant. Please stop threatening the health of my baby by arguing against vaccination. This is not an abstract concept. Babies cannot get vaccinated against many diseases for the first several months of their lives. When you argue against vaccines you argue in favor of awful diseases like Hib, measles and whooping cough. All of those diseases have seen comebacks in the United States because of anti-vaccine idiocy. All are very dangerous to a baby.
I am not an ant-vaxxer. Still, it can be argued that the vaccine schedule supported by most medical establishments is unreasonably aggressive. Why is this? Could it be that the relatively low cost, therefore low profit in vaccinations favors the 'sheer volume' approach to shareholder appeasement? I mean... some of the Hepatitis variations being vaccinated are sexually transmissive only. Why does a near infant need a Hep C vaccine? Just asking.

My kids ran the vaccine gauntlet just fine. Millions have, chances are yours will too. Still, Big Pharma needs to be reigned in. They no longer serve the Public Good and that is not good. I don't think some pressure from parents to justify their schedules, formulations and reveal case studies is a completely bad thing.

H
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