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Old 03-15-2011, 02:32 AM
 
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Never? I have, several times, as recently as two months ago - mid-day no less. Just becuase it has never happened to you, doesn't mean it never happens.
In the past 2 months I have been asked by black dudes I don't associate with mid-day at least 100 times if I want to buy drugs.
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Old 03-15-2011, 02:36 AM
 
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In the past 2 months I have been asked by black dudes I don't associate with mid-day at least 100 times if I want to buy drugs.
That was not my point.
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Old 03-15-2011, 02:44 AM
 
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I was shot at by a cop and tackled and maced by 2 others when I was 11 at 3AM once. To be fair I was reaching for my gun and about to shoot at them when they rolled up on me cause I thought they were trying to kidnap or rape me cause they were not even in un-marked cars, just a normal cars.
I'm not even gonna get into this fairy tale.
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Old 03-15-2011, 02:49 AM
 
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Way back in the 70s, I was challenged to view TV news and printed news with new eyes. This was for a college level journalism class.

I noticed how if someone black committed a crime, that the person was shown on the news; if the alleged criminal was white, the were not shown.

Let me tell you how shocked I was that this was true.

I also started looking (by challenge) at the type of sentencing for blacks and whites for the same crime. Blacks were by far sentenced more harshly than whites for the same crimes.

Since that time, I've known that the media is consciously pushing fear of blacks on people who watch tv or read papers.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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So a small percentage of the black population - never mind that there are plenty of white drug dealers - dealing drugs is a crime worth tarnishing the image of all black people in the media but destroying the economy for everybody when we know that nearly all of the perpetrators are white has no effect on the image of white people? Some country we live in.
Well a lot of it probably stems from songs like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuzFoFMJB1Q

Blacks in music, television, and movies often glorify "da hood" lifestyle which involves being promiscuous, selling and doing drugs, flashy cars, etc. So blacks in America are doing themselves a huge disservice when it comes their perception. I understand that the majority of blacks don't sell drugs and live the hip hop lifestyle but groups are often judged by their most outspoken and vocal members. Just the way it is.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:53 AM
 
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Read the Rolling Stone article I linked. They're all in bed together.

Urban Gangsters: What Would the Godfather Think of Today (http://www.suite101.com/content/urban-gangsters-a18262 - broken link)

His conclusion is as follows: “In my city, we’ll keep the traffic in the dark people, the colored. They’re animals anyway so let them lose their souls.†It is a tragic irony that the destruction of the inner-city we are now all too familiar with was predicted by the gangsters today’s youth so revere. Yet, one wonders how black youth so readily turn a blind eye to the flagrant prejudice they evidently had against black people.

That movie was made in 1972.


Read more at Suite101: Urban Gangsters: What Would the Godfather Think of Today’s Pimps and Hustlers? http://www.suite101.com/content/urban-gangsters-a18262#ixzz1GeO7f6h8




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOSOYSLDuQE
Actually it gets worse at part of the Iran-Contra controversy. The Contras were allowed to smuggle cocaine directly into the United States with the knowledge of the CIA while the U.S. Customs Bureau turned a blind eye. This help fuel the crack cocaine epidemic in the 1980's.

America's 'crack' plague has roots in Nicaragua war

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FOR THE BETTER PART of a decade, a San Francisco Bay Area drug ring sold tons of cocaine to the Crips and Bloods street gangs of Los Angeles and funneled millions in drug profits to a Latin American guerrilla army run by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, a Mercury News investigation has found.

This drug network opened the first pipeline between Colombia's cocaine cartels and the black neighborhoods of Los Angeles, a city now known as the "crack'' capital of the world. The cocaine that flooded in helped spark a crack explosion in urban America � and provided the cash and connections needed for L.A.'s gangs to buy automatic weapons.

It is one of the most bizarre alliances in modern history: the union of a U.S.-backed army attempting to overthrow a revolutionary socialist government and the Uzi-toting "gangstas'' of Compton and South-Central Los Angeles.

Testimony links U.S. to drugs-guns trade
Dealers got their 'own little arsenal'

The army's financiers -- who met with CIA agents both before and during the time they were selling the drugs in L.A. -- delivered cut-rate cocaine to the gangs through a young South-Central crack dealer named Ricky Donnell Ross.

Unaware of his suppliers' military and political connections, "Freeway Rick" -- a dope dealer of mythic proportions in the L.A. drug world -- turned the cocaine powder into crack and wholesaled it to gangs across the country.

The cash Ross paid for the cocaine, court records show, was then used to buy weapons and equipment for a guerrilla army named the Fuerza Democratica Nicaraguense (Nicaraguan Democratic Force) or FDN, the largest of several anti-communist commonly called the Contras.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:55 AM
 
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I'm confused. Do you mean to say that in ANY ghetto in America - white and hispanic ghettos included - you will mostly find black people on the streets at night? Or was your point that all ghettos are black?


And why aren't white gated communities patrolled for drug dealing/use when everybody knows damn well that the largest consumers of designer drugs and typical rich people drugs (cocaine, heroin, etc.) are rich white people? Who's the largest group of people who can actually afford to support a cocaine habit? Why does possessing half a kilo of pure cocaine - over $10,000 dollars worth - only net you about 5 years in jail?
You keep saying stuff like "everybody knows" but no, not everyone does know. You just come off sounding bitter.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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Way back in the 70s, I was challenged to view TV news and printed news with new eyes. This was for a college level journalism class.

I noticed how if someone black committed a crime, that the person was shown on the news; if the alleged criminal was white, the were not shown.

Let me tell you how shocked I was that this was true.

I also started looking (by challenge) at the type of sentencing for blacks and whites for the same crime. Blacks were by far sentenced more harshly than whites for the same crimes.

Since that time, I've known that the media is consciously pushing fear of blacks on people who watch tv or read papers.
Well prior record plays a part in sentencing. So they we could Joe Black and Joe White both convicted of drug dealing. It could be White's first offense (first time getting caught) but it's Black's third time getting caught. Black will likely get a harsher sentence and some advocacy group will cry foul.

I'm not denying that racism exists in the justice system, I'm sure it does. Yet I feel as though cries of racism are often exaggerated. What I'm tired of is everytime a white cop arrests a black suspect he's put under scrutiny. Cops are heroes in my book, they keep our communities say and maintain the peace and I'm sick of the bumrap people keep giving cops.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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Well prior record plays a part in sentencing. So they we could Joe Black and Joe White both convicted of drug dealing. It could be White's first offense (first time getting caught) but it's Black's third time getting caught. Black will likely get a harsher sentence and some advocacy group will cry foul.

I'm not denying that racism exists in the justice system, I'm sure it does. Yet I feel as though cries of racism are often exaggerated. What I'm tired of is everytime a white cop arrests a black suspect he's put under scrutiny. Cops are heroes in my book, they keep our communities say and maintain the peace and I'm sick of the bumrap people keep giving cops.
While I agree that cries of racism are often exaggerated, comparable crimes were studied and blacks get sentenced more harshly. It wasn't a case of first & third offense, but first and first and the resulting sentences by race.

I do challenge you to watch the news and see if you notice what I did.
I watch American Forces Network News now so I'm not watching regular TV.
Come November, I will be again. Or not.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:29 AM
 
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I think it comes down to poverty, not race.

I remember in the Boston area, South Boston was a working class, mostly white neighborhood. It had VERY high rates of drug use, incarceration, property crime, drug addiction and suicides. Poor white neighborhoods usually have about the same problems as poor minority neighborhoods.
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