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no a legal document was never shown!!a digital copy hardly counts as a legal document!!
Wrong in fact a digital copy is EXACTLY what a legal document and legal birth certificate in Hawaii is. In 2000/ 2001 Hawaii changed all of its records to digital on computer. That is EXACTLY what you receive if you contact the Hawaii Health Department's Vital records section for a certified copy of your birth certificate.
as a mexican I have an inside view on people coming in and out of this country without government knowing. it is 100% possible!
as someone who has grown up near the tijuana/san diego border i'm also familiar with illegal entry into the US.
your theory makes every other president MORE suspect of being an illegal alien then obama. his parents could not have simply slipped in threw a hole in the fence. to get to hawaii they would have had to go thru customs with an undocumented infant. this would be before they found a sympathetic department of health worker who gave them a falsified birth certificate because they " felt sorry " for the obamas.
I hate to even say this, 'cause I am not a
birther, but a "Certificate of Live Birth" is not
the same as an official "Birth Certificate" with a
doctor's signature, etc.
It has been elucidated on these various threads
what a "Certificate of Live Birth" actually is.
"Hollister said the Social Security number on what he says is Obama’s draft registration begins with the numbers 042, which would be issued to someone born in Connecticut, not Hawaii"[LEFT]
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It seems what he did was pretty much illegal. So I do not condone his actions. But if he has done what he says he did, and the information he has so far released is true, isnt it just bizarre?
I believe Obama was born in Hawaii, but ive struggled to understand that extreme secrecy about his past, his records and such. If there is nothing to hide, why have so many things been under lock and key?
You can call "birthers" anything you want Lefties, but you still cant explain the bizarre secrecy of everything in Obama's past. But of course, you dont want to try because I think even you all have doubts about things you just wont admit it. You dont have to be one who questions where he was born to take issue with how many things in this man's past are so guarded.
If this man has committed crimes, he should be prosecuted. However, I wish Obama would allow us into his past and quit keeping everything on lock down. It makes you look guilty.
Guilty. 'Til proven innocent.
Maybe I should call birthers "Mom."
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Originally Posted by SoCalCroozer
WHO CARES??????? The guy grew up OUTSIDE the USA basically. As far as I'm concerned he's more Muslim than he is American considering the schools he attended as a kid and that fact that Indonesia was where he spent a good deal of his childhood. Does it really matter now? The guy isa putz, a monkey, a clown, worse than GWB! And the American idiots voted him into office. I say lets vote for him again in 2012 and let's finish this roast of America.............! We don't even deserve to have a Ron Paul in the White House most of us are so stupid and braindead. Like a bunch of drooling mentally handicapped zombies walking around sucking our thumbs..........is more like the average American than some informed, rational, cricital thinking freedom loving revolutionary.
I attended Schools in Georgia from grades 1 -12. Obviously, this makes me a Southern redneck racist member of the KKK.
It should also be noted that Social Security numbers were not issued at birth in the 1960s. You applied for a Social Security number before you started employment, usually around the age of 14 to 16. Social Security numbers were not issued automatically at birth until 1986. So even if he does have Obama's Social Security number it means absolutely nothing.
Yes, until (I think) the early 1980s or the late 1970s, your Social Security number was assigned on the basis of where YOU (not your parents) signed up, which typically where you were living in your teens when you went to get working papers, which could be across the country from where you were born.
I hate to even say this, 'cause I am not a
birther, but a "Certificate of Live Birth" is not
the same as an official "Birth Certificate" with a
doctor's signature, etc.
It has been elucidated on these various threads
what a "Certificate of Live Birth" actually is.
Are you suggesting that nobody in Hawaii who has asked for a birth certificate for the past ten years has actually gotten one? Because the COLB is the only form of birth certificate that Hawaii has been giving out for many years now. Did you miss the posts earlier which showed that many states have birth certificates that don't include a doctor's signature?
the SS# prefix was designed for clerical organization, not to be proof of where someone was born, where they live or anything else. once issued that number is linked to that person. there is no reason to reissue a number for a typo prefix .
Typos (mistakes) left in place often create duplicates. Not a good thing. I wonder how many other SS numbers come from Hawaii with the "0" prefix instead of "9". Hmmmm....
Maybe someone else has the same number - someone who really did get it in Connecticut. I hope they can collect Obama's Social Security checks when the time comes. He won't mind sharing, will he?
I hate to even say this, 'cause I am not a
birther, but a "Certificate of Live Birth" is not
the same as an official "Birth Certificate" with a
doctor's signature, etc.
It has been elucidated on these various threads
what a "Certificate of Live Birth" actually is.
I'm amazed at how much "wrong" you fit into a small space.
In your world, no one born or that gotten a replacement since 2001 in Hawaii has "Birth Certificate".
I hate to even say this, 'cause I am not a
birther, but a "Certificate of Live Birth" is not
the same as an official "Birth Certificate" with a
doctor's signature, etc.
the US state department, the top authority on US citizenship, begs to differ....
" *A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.
Beginning April 1, 2011, all birth certificates must also include the full names of the applicant's parent(s). "
the hawaiian COLB meets all these standards. never has the state department required a doctor's signature to make a birth certificate official.
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