Mass Transit: Left vs. Right? (environmentalists, compare, versus, states)
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Nice deflection. The trust fund, even if not "raided", doesn't come close to paying for roads and highways. And I never said you were my milch cow, whatever that is.
Where do you keep getting this Kool-Aid from? Anti-freedom, car-haters?
Just to pay for road maintenance we would have to double the gas tax and the car registration fees. That would still leave tax payers stuck paying for 100% of the road construction costs but I'll settle for at least removing the maintenance subsidies by making car drivers actually pay for the roads they use.
1. Greed: More government bureaucratic control over the funding and taxes used to build and operate these types of experimental toys. More control means more money coming into the coffers that they draw their salaries from, therefore more security for them.
2. Status:A pack mentality within liberal progressive/Democrat party public employees whereby they seek to gain status within their peer group by inventing the latest idea to "save the planet" or some trendy scheme grow the size of their employer.
3. Downright narrow-minded ignorance of reality: They most all work in the same building or general area, and live in the same lily-white suburb, so it makes sense to them to ride such a contraption to and from work. In their self-centered ignorance they assume the rest of society would benefit, when nothing could be further from the truth.
3. Downright narrow-minded ignorance of reality: They most all work in the same building or general area, and live in the same lily-white suburb, so it makes sense to them to ride such a contraption to and from work. In their self-centered ignorance they assume the rest of society would benefit, when nothing could be further from the truth.
Oddly enough, your arguments appear to be taken straight from the program of a radical left group called the Bus Riders Union which is anti-rail transit on the grounds that rail transit only benefits affluent whites and hurts poor non-whites, so it's better not to build public rail transit at all:
I commuted to manhattan for years from Long Island. Car during peak hours expect a minimum of 45 minutes additional travel time, but 3 hrs to travel 40 crow miles was not the exception, more a rule. This doesn't include the bridge tolls, gas, wear and tear, or insane price tag on parking either. Driving around in circles for another hour in quest of a parking space might change your mind. Those sienfeld episodes were truth in advertisement.
There's no amount of money worth being stuck on DC's beltway, the nutter circle around Atlanta, or stretches of LA freeways at the wrong time of day. When the wrong time of day is the whole day and half the night, time for plan B.
Why do gas guzzling commies have a huge problem with freedom of choice? Why do you need the rest of us in forced march to validate your guzzling habits?
The economics textbook which I used in college - which I'd hardly consider to have been a "left wing" textbook, and my professor would best be described as being moderately conservative - mentioned that the US government subsidized auto transport and thus gas prices and taxes were far below the actual cost of highways, environmental damage, etc. Not to mention the destruction of neighborhoods by freeways, etc.
Liberals love reducing the freedom of individuals and making them subject to total government control.
It may surprise you that in a certain era of US history, it was the private sector who were more into public transit while the public sector was against it.
The New York subway system was originally three different lines, one which was owned by the city and two of which were privately owned (which is why it is amongst the world's most confusing urban rail mass transit systems). There was far more construction of new lines when the IRT (Interborough Rapid Transit) and BMT (Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit)were in private hands than after the city took them over in 1940. While the IRT company was poorly run and had some financial problems, the BMT company had never failed to turn a profit at the city took it over. (Some oldtime New Yorkers still refer to the numbered lines as the IRT and the J, L, M, N, Q, and R lines as the BMT.) The director of city planning for New York, Robert Moses, despised subways and trains and promoted expressways and highways, and so no new lines were built after the city takeover, and the El was dismantled.
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Human beings reduced to being transported by cattle car: that's the utopian future liberals, and government, has in mind for all of us.
Godwin's Law violation.....
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3 reasons, mainly
