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Old 03-25-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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If you are a Union Worker and you are required to strike, you can apply for "foodstamps" as you would would have no income until the strike is settled. This legislation would make it impossible to recieve said "foodstamps". As striking union members do have jobs, (temporarily displaced workers) it is temporary.
Required to strike? Required not to work? Required not to earn money to put food on the table and maintain a roof over the heads of their families and themselves?

Doesn't sound like the unions have the best interest of its members at heart does it? Perhaps if unions really cared about their memberships they would tuck that dues money away into and investment account an buy food and make mortgage payments for its membership when it "requires them not to work" instead of paying off politicians for favors and making the union bosses rich.

Wow, the unions requirements over its membership to be non productive and starve the family makes the GOP look like little lambs indeed.

Just a thought.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:15 PM
 
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Right!! And then children under the age of twelve can again work 12-16 hours a day in sweat shops. Women can be locked in at their work stations so they can burn to death in fires! Bosses can again harass workers as they have no recourse. That bad old Department of Labor can be shut down!
Some people need to take a look at just why the unions were formed and how they helped to form the middle class here in the U.S.
right, despite the laws on the books that prevent these things from happening.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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Absolutely, this is nuts unions employees want to go on strike with no consequences, hardly a heroic struggle.
Exactly right. Isn't that why they pay dues??? To have a "strike fund" to pay them to sit on their butts instead of going to work?
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:21 PM
 
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As it should be. Your choice, your problem to deal with.

I can't wait for the day when all the stinking unions and their thugs and whiners are nothing but an unpleasant memory.
I agree wholeheartedly.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:22 PM
 
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Right!! And then children under the age of twelve can again work 12-16 hours a day in sweat shops. Women can be locked in at their work stations so they can burn to death in fires! Bosses can again harass workers as they have no recourse. That bad old Department of Labor can be shut down!
Some people need to take a look at just why the unions were formed and how they helped to form the middle class here in the U.S.
Pure, unadulterated Psychobabble.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Pure, unadulterated Psychobabble.
Try learning something about the history of labor. Start with Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" for an easy read. Then do some real research. The Triangle Shirt Factory fire comes to mind as it's been allover the freakin news recently.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Maine
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No one is ignoring the impact in history of the union.
Just as one gives acknowledgment to the the pony
express

Some people need to look at why public unions
don't serve the interests of ALL it's taxpaying citizens.

And quit pandering to the myth
of "middle class". It really doesn't exist today
as it did in the 1950's. Too many demographic variables
to say what makes one "middle class in 2011".
The "middle class" was decimated in the Reagan years under privitization and "trickle down" economics.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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Right!! And then children under the age of twelve can again work 12-16 hours a day in sweat shops. Women can be locked in at their work stations so they can burn to death in fires! Bosses can again harass workers as they have no recourse. That bad old Department of Labor can be shut down!
Some people need to take a look at just why the unions were formed and how they helped to form the middle class here in the U.S.
EVERYONE legally working (and even not legally working, though they are less likely to file claims) in the United States has protections from the tragedies you list, whether they are union workers or not. Yes, unions were initially created to protect people from abuse and danger in the work environment, but everyone has those protections today and unions are a moot point if you are talking solely about worker safety.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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EVERYONE legally working (and even not legally working, though they are less likely to file claims) in the United States has protections from the tragedies you list, whether they are union workers or not. Yes, unions were initially created to protect people from abuse and danger in the work environment, but everyone has those protections today and unions are a moot point if you are talking solely about worker safety.
There you go speaking the truth and throwing cold water on the fearmonger. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Right!! And then children under the age of twelve can again work 12-16 hours a day in sweat shops. Women can be locked in at their work stations so they can burn to death in fires! Bosses can again harass workers as they have no recourse. That bad old Department of Labor can be shut down!
Some people need to take a look at just why the unions were formed and how they helped to form the middle class here in the U.S.
This doesn't happen in non union states.
Are union states that terrible that they need unions to prevent this ?
And what about Federal laws that came about to prevent that ?
Would union states defy the Fed laws ?

You are living in the past.
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