Challenge: Name one positive aspect of homosexuality (death, female, own)
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Cool, I hope they submit to a study. It could help a lot.
Yea, they should definately be in some sample set. Also, my buddy has a brother and an aunt that are gay. It's bizarre.
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I want the reasons for homosexuality to be discovered, so that all of the people screaming its a choice can finally shut up.
I know its not a choice, its from various factors starting from before birth and after. But some people won't be satisfied until its proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Some folks won't be satisfied regardless of whats found.
I don't understand why folk just can't consider their own orientation and apply appropriately. Do they really choose which gender they're attracted to?
Heterosexual men, who proclaim to be macho, like to start threads about them because they're secretly obsessed with homosexual men. So it gives people like the OP an avenue to further explore his fantasies.
Liberals are always lecturing us like petulant children about the wonders of homosexuality and heterosexuality. So I'm going to open up my mind and let you all enlighten me. What are the wonders of homosexuality? How is homosexuality inherently better than heterosexuality? How are Adam and Steve superior to Adam and Eve? What service does homosexuality provide that heterosexuality denies? Of what value is homosexuality to our culture or our advancement as a civilization?
It's not better or worse. That's like asking somebody to state why marrying brunettes is inherently better than marrying blondes for society. Obviously those things have NO bearing on the advancement of our civilization.
Yea, they should definately be in some sample set. Also, my buddy has a brother and an aunt that are gay. It's bizarre.
I don't understand why folk just can't consider their own orientation and apply appropriately. Do they really choose which gender they're attracted to?
It challenges their perception of God, and that morals are based on a higher power to know that homosexuality is natural.
Some folks can't handle that. I'm sure that many people went to their grave saying that the world was flat in 1550.
Since it's not a choice the idea/saying of folk being born with it seems to be fitting. Very little is 100% genetic. Most things are multi-factorial. With that said, my adopted brother looked up his bio family a few years ago and found that his dad is bi, and a brother and uncle are gay. That's pretty interesting.
The thing is that people forget that when scientists state environment, typically they don't mean how people are raised. Rather, they mean the hormonal environment of the womb that created a response in the genome of the fetus.
What's interesting are the twin studies of paternal twins. That there is a higher than chance percentage that both twins are gay...if they were not raised together.
Siblings have a higher percentage than those that are not related...you guessed it even when they were not raised in the same household.
Clearly there is a genetic component and and an epigentic response.
Liberals are always lecturing us like petulant children about the wonders of homosexuality and heterosexuality. So I'm going to open up my mind and let you all enlighten me. What are the wonders of homosexuality? How is homosexuality inherently better than heterosexuality? How are Adam and Steve superior to Adam and Eve? What service does homosexuality provide that heterosexuality denies? Of what value is homosexuality to our culture or our advancement as a civilization?
Not a matter of wonders or superiority. It's a simple matter of how someone was formed by the Creator. Your sexuality is hard wired in just like your sex and race.To go against the temperament given by the Creator would be against nature.
If a homosexual can change and become heterosexual, then you as a heterosexual can change and become a homosexual and be attracted to members of your own sex. You CAN do that, can't you?
The thing is that people forget that when scientists state environment, typically they don't mean how people are raised. Rather, they mean the hormonal environment of the womb that created a response in the genome of the fetus.
What's interesting are the twin studies of paternal twins. That there is a higher than chance percentage that both twins are gay...if they were not raised together.
Siblings have a higher percentage than those that are not related...you guessed it even when they were not raised in the same household.
Clearly there is a genetic component and and an epigentic response.
This I agree with.
I was just stating that we don't know that homosexuality is something people are born with. And if we are going to stand on the "science says" pedestal, then we've got to be as accurate as possible. The truth is right now we don't know for a fact what factors cause homosexuality, and that they are probably different for every individual. But it is definitely not a choice, all of the major peer reviewed science on the subject shows that.
You have one fallacy in your statement. We don't know for a fact that people are born gay. That doesn't make it a choice, but the jury is still out on if homosexuality is 100% genetic. As it stands, it looks like its a combination of genetics, hormonal changes in the womb, and environmental effects after birth and in upbringing.
Seeing as straight people have been having homosexual children since the beginning of human history, its obvious that the sexual orientation of the parents plays little into the sexuality of the child.
No one is saying it's purely genetic. But I think the evidence quite adequately supports that a large component of sexual orientation is determined pre-natally or at an age far too young for choice to ever enter the equation.
Aside from that, the fact that the overwhelming majority of gays cannot stop being gay not matter how hard they try, basically proves it's not a choice. There are tons of gays who would choose to be straight if they could (let's face it, life is FAR FAR easier for straights), but they can't.
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