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Even Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald admits this was all about busting the unions for political power.
http://wseu-sepac.org/documents_prin...ntributors.pdf I know you already know the answer and were just trying to get one of these guys to be honest about it, but since none of them seem capable of doing so, I'll go ahead and say it for them. The police and firefighters unions were among Walkers biggest supporters. And in fact, they've historically been among the Republican Party's biggest supporters nation-wide.
Republicans across many states thought they could destroy the democrats by destroying unions. What they're about to find out is that it's going to backfire on them big time when they lose the police and firefighters. They're in for a rude awakening.
I don't think "they" can be honest on this issue. They are using the guise of "balancing the budget," by spreading half truths and, flat out lies. As I said and as anyone knows, you can't balance the budget on the minority of people. It looks good, sounds good, and makes alot of people happy. And that is it. There is very little actual substance to this and in other threads, you can already see the backlash.
Thank you for being honest and upfront. Furthermore, as I have openly stated, many times: I AM a police officer and one of "them." The public employee who has a pension. Moreover, I am a conservative.
Because the stimulus money from DC given to the states was for education only..now that money has run out. That's why school districts all over the nation are slashing. The stimulus that covered education salaries last year has run out..no more "free" money for education.
First off, you are just flat out wrong. Many police/fire departments, all across the country received "stimulus" money for hiring of new police officers, dispatchers, jail staff, and firefighters. Someone else already pointed this out and provided links to such effect. My department hired 9 new police officers underneath federal stimulus money.
Finally, great. You, and others, keep your myopic viewpoint, focused on teacher unions. It appears as if you can't see beyond teachers. What you and others fail to see is all the OTHER workers this effects. What about librarian's? Mechanics? Wood workers? Computer specialists? Clerks? Engineers? Road workers? Yes, you know, all those other people, who make a state run. The ones who clean the parks? Pave the roads? Those people are also effected and guess what, there was no stimulus money for them either.
Walker's move was to bust unions. Not save money. He sold you and others a bill of goods. And again, you nor anyone else who support Walker will even mention the police and fire unions. If he REALLY wanted to balance the budget, he would have gone after them; they make the most money. The govenor in Ohio did, why not Walker?
it is almost like that "class envy" thing rush is always talking about. could it be that the PWT teabaggers are envious how we compensate of these dedicate public servants that put their life on the line every day? Do they want to destroy anyone doing a little better than them because they see they will never pull themselves out of the miserable lives they lead?
Oh yeah, the first time I've heard "lavish" and "public school teacher" in the same sentence was here.
Democrats started the recall process on March 2nd against eight GOP State Senators. They have until May 2nd to get the needed signatures (the amount needed ranges from approx 15,000-20,000 depending on the district), pretty much at the halfway point, they have enough signatures for at least one of the State Senators, and will officially file the paperwork.
Of course they will get enough signatures to force a referendum on nearly all, if not all, GOP state senators. Every member of government unions will sign which is a given.
But winning the recall is a whole different matter.
How many of these police are earning middle class salaries? I see hundreds of cops on the list earning massive salaries...over half of them earn over $150k per year.
How about these public workers, earning multiple 6-figure pensions? Are they anything BUT a drain on a city/state budget?
First off all, I'm sorry you feel cops aren't worthwhile to spend money on. I hope you never get into an emergency. Also, California's cost of living is pretty high so making 100,000 dollars there isn't all that extravagant. I'm sorry but if there's one profession where I don't mind splurging on, it's law enforcement.
I find it ironic that all of these conservative/libertarian types are always telling us that we're liberals because we're "jealous" of the rich and promote "class warfare." It sounds like you guys are jealous of public employees who make more than you.
They dont care about that because they know what is best for the people! The people voted and they dont like how it turned out so they are trying to get it overturned!
Really Pathetic!
No your statement is really pathetic. Those people are exercising their rights under their state Constitution. Politicians are supposed to be public servants, if the people are unhappy with them it's their right to recall them.
Democrats started the recall process on March 2nd against eight GOP State Senators. They have until May 2nd to get the needed signatures (the amount needed ranges from approx 15,000-20,000 depending on the district), pretty much at the halfway point, they have enough signatures for at least one of the State Senators, and will officially file the paperwork. The Democrats needed 15,588 signatures to recall State Sen Dan Kapanake, and picked up more than 20,000 signatures in less than 30 days (some sources had it at 21,700). Kapanake represents a fairly Democratic district.
Democrats started the recall process on March 2nd against eight GOP State Senators. They have until May 2nd to get the needed signatures (the amount needed ranges from approx 15,000-20,000 depending on the district), pretty much at the halfway point, they have enough signatures for at least one of the State Senators, and will officially file the paperwork. The Democrats needed 15,588 signatures to recall State Sen Dan Kapanake, and picked up more than 20,000 signatures in less than 30 days (some sources had it at 21,700). Kapanake represents a fairly Democratic district.
Just like Nov. 2nd, you will see the Conservative side of the citizens squash the immature cry babies and crooks.
How many Conservatives screamed and threw temper tantrums for a recall election after Progressives took power and started spending spending spending?
No, the Conservatives took a beating and planned for the next revolution, scheduled every 2 years, like an adult.
It makes the Progressives look childish and petty.
It will backfire once again, just like everything they have done in the last 2 years.
America has a woke a giant. The rise of the Conservative movement, and away from Progressive theft.
This "budget repair bill" may have been the best thing to happen to the Democratic Party in Wisconsin in a long time. People are fired up, and it all starts with Kloppenburg winning this Tuesday. By that point, the GOP in this state will be spinning their wheels in frustration. The Republicans know they are doomed, which is why they haven't tried to take another vote on their "budget repair bill."
The recall of these corporate puppets is going to happen, and they know it. Funny we haven't heard much about the recall efforts against Democrats, huh?
...Walker's move was to bust unions. Not save money. He sold you and others a bill of goods. And again, you nor anyone else who support Walker will even mention the police and fire unions. If he REALLY wanted to balance the budget, he would have gone after them; they make the most money. The govenor in Ohio did, why not Walker?
I've wondered the same thing. The only theory I can come up with is... governors have a state police security detail around them 24/7.
Maybe he doesn't want to make enemies of the officers that just might have to prevent somebody from splitting his skull.
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