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Old 04-22-2011, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I don't think Europeans are more tame or obedient or whatever you seem to imply.
Most Americans use weapons against each other, not against some oppressive leaders.
Nor did the majority of today's Europeans ever live in monarchies, let alone real ones where the king or queen had actually anything to say. They only know those things from history books.
Actually, we did use weapons against oppressive leaders -and won our freedom.
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:08 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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April 19


Assault Rifle Confiscation Resisted By Armed Extremists

BOSTON (AP)--National guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a paramilitary extremist faction. Military and law enforcement officials estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Faciamus!: Assault Rifle Confiscation Resisted By Armed Extremists

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Old 04-22-2011, 12:15 PM
 
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I disagree with your premises. You say, "if in fact". How about supplying some "facts" to back up your claims? Then we will talk.
Google it! Easy peasy lemon squeazy.
It diludes the other stats that conclude gun laws lower gun violence. Like Canada, Japan, etc.
Here is a bit about another fav: Swiss guns + Swiss people = nothing really lol
Armed, but Not Necessarily Dangerous - By Joshua E. Keating | Foreign Policy
There is soooooo much out there it would take to long, I would individually google what you don't already know or haven't heard.
http://www.guncite.com/swissgun-kopel.html

They aren't really "facts" more like data, which is ever changing so

Do you have an opinion with that shake?

Here is some more reading

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...rticlekey=6166

More: http://www.endgunviolence.com/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC=%7B0D44C5F1-C425-4ACA-B209-0D51F4F97474%7D&DE=%7BCBC8379A-D930-4B9D-95EF-05BDDD5A099E%7D (broken link)

I mean there are hundreds of opinions and data on this, sorry, I assume everyone has heard it before and again, and well, you know......
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:20 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Actually, we did use weapons against oppressive leaders -and won our freedom.
When was that again?
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:20 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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We have the Constitution and Bill of rights to protect our God given rights from people like you...

You can learn more here...

NRA-ILA :: Illinois: Proponents see growing support in General Assembly for Right-to-Carry (http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=15021 - broken link)
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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We have literally dozens of threads on this. The OP should learn to use the search function.

The OP should also study history and the US Constitution regarding the 2nd Amendment. The countries she cites are not free societies with Constitutional affirmations of basic human rights endowed by our creator. They do not have the right to defend themselves individually from violence or from a tyrannical government. The 2nd Amendment affirms an individual liberty to the basic human right of self defense.
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:23 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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We have the Constitution and Bill of rights to protect our God given rights from people like you...

You can learn more here...

NRA-ILA :: Illinois: Proponents see growing support in General Assembly for Right-to-Carry (http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=15021 - broken link)
Tell me, do you people really think god has anything to do with your constitution and guns, or is that just a welcome auto-suggestion?
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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"Gun Control" can be tricky but the idea is to have a firm grip and keep the sights lined up when the trigger breaks....

There are several good books on the subject, try that with more range time and you will improve your "Gun Control"...
lololololThat was a good one!
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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Tell me, do you people really think god has anything to do with your constitution and guns, or is that just a welcome auto-suggestion?
Obviously you are ignorant of US Historical documents. Please stop deflecting the discussion.
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Obviously you are ignorant of US Historical documents. Please stop deflecting the discussion.
Why? It does have to do with the topic. It makes a big difference whether or not people really think god wants or allows them to run around with arms.
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