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Please name an ethnic group that is not subject to prejudiced beliefs by members of another ethnic group.
You can't can you?
That's because EVERYBODY JUDGES EVERYONE BY PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS.
This is called stereotyping.
The goal is to change those perceptions about your ethnic group by other groups.
It would be nice to live in a world where we are just human beings but that ain't gonna happen.
So until that miracle occurs the only thing you and others of your "group" (whatever that may be) is to act with self-respect, self-determination and maturity. That way new "stereotypes" will come to fore but they will at least be positive stereotypes (even if they too aren't accurate).
If you and others do that then "racists" and others with negative perceptions about your "group" will have no choice but to change those perceptions.
That is the whole point you are missing.
Its you that may be living in a bubble.
BTW, who still calls Germans Nazi's?
... I'm done. Can someone else please explain that there are people out there that will STILL stereotype negitively regardless of what the rest of the group does.
Anyone? Apparently my explainations aren't good enough.
... I'm done. Can someone else please explain that there are people out there that will STILL stereotype negitively regardless of what the rest of the group does.
Anyone? Apparently my explainations aren't good enough.
Perhaps it would help if you address my comments directly instead of "I quit".
I'm guessing your point is that blacks will always be a victim of racism because others, mainly white people, are just naturally racist against blacks. Your point is that blacks, unlike all other ethnic groups, are treated far worse than other groups because, no matter what blacks do, they are just believed to be inferior.
All I'm saying is that blacks are no different than anyone else. People judge blacks the same way people judge any other ethnic groups...by their actions.
If you want racism to disappear before you are happy and satisfied then guess what:
YOU WILL NEVER GET A 100% CONSENSUS FROM WHITES THAT BLACKS ARE COMPLETELY INCREDIBLE AND AWESOME.THERE WILL ALWAYS BE RACISM NO MATTER WHAT. EVERY ETHNIC GROUP (EVEN CAUCASIANS) HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
Perhaps it would help if you address my comments directly instead of "I quit".
I'm guessing your point is that blacks will always be a victim of racism because others, mainly white people, are just naturally racist against blacks. Your point is that blacks, unlike all other ethnic groups, are treated far worse than other groups because, no matter what blacks do, they are just believed to be inferior.
All I'm saying is that blacks are no different than anyone else. People judge blacks the same way people judge any other ethnic groups...by their actions.
If you want racism to disappear before you are happy and satisfied then guess what:
YOU WILL NEVER GET A 100% CONSENSUS FROM WHITES THAT BLACKS ARE COMPLETELY INCREDIBLE AND AWESOME.THERE WILL ALWAYS BE RACISM NO MATTER WHAT. EVERY ETHNIC GROUP (EVEN CAUCASIANS) HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
It is insanely simple and realistic.
No... for the last time, I'm saying that people of ALL groups, will ALWAYS be stereotyped in a negative light because some people will always refuse to see a group of people in a positive light because of prejudice.
The reason why I want to stop saying this to YOU is because apparently, that's not getting through. And the fact that you instantly went to the whole, "We blacks are the victims" thing on THIS post just further tells me that nothing's geting through.
No... for the last time, I'm saying that people of ALL groups, will ALWAYS be stereotyped in a negative light because some people will always refuse to see a group of people in a positive light because of prejudice.
The reason why I want to stop saying this to YOU is because apparently, that's not getting through. And the fact that you instantly went to the whole, "We blacks are the victims" thing on THIS post just further tells me that nothing's geting through.
So what's the point?
What you said (in red) is what I've been saying all along!
I'm confused. Where is the disagreement if what I put in red is what you believe?
Are you saying that you will only be satisfied when 100% of a group is completely "non-racist"?
My overall point is that though you can't COMPLETELY eliminate racism or negative stereotypes you CAN limit it by modifying internal behavior.
What you said (in red) is what I've been saying all along!
I'm confused. Where is the disagreement if what I put in red is what you believe?
Are you saying that you will only be satisfied when 100% of a group is completely "non-racist"?
My overall point is that though you can't COMPLETELY eliminate racism or negative stereotypes you CAN limit it by modifying internal behavior.
Most groups have done this with success.
OMG, dude, NO.
You've said that over time, racist views and negative stereotypes will just go away. Check back a couple pages. You kept saying the opposite of what I posted.
On top of this, you're putting words in my mouth and really, I'm just waisting my time here.
You've said that over time, racist views and negative stereotypes will just go away. Check back a couple pages. You kept saying the opposite of what I posted.
On top of this, you're putting words in my mouth and really, I'm just waisting my time here.
I put in red what you claim I wrote/said.
Here is what I actually wrote:
Post#110
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With the proper behavior racist views will simply erode over time.
Post #115
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As you shrink the amount of stereotypical behavior you shrink the power of the stereotype.
Post #118
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Their behavior changed so the stereotypes changed.
The Poles, Germans, Italians, Spanish and the Chinese...ALL of these ethnic groups used to be stereotyped one way and now those old stereotypes have either gone away or changed.
Post #120
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So until that miracle occurs the only thing you and others of your "group" (whatever that may be) is to act with self-respect, self-determination and maturity. That way new "stereotypes" will come to fore but they will at least be positive stereotypes (even if they too aren't accurate).
Now in post #118 I did write "...have either gone away..." so, sure, perhaps I assumed too much there but I think you have to agree that you exaggerate and misstate my words.
Once again,
Stereotypes are going nowhere. But positive stereotypes do exist. They may not be an accurate appraisal for a racial or ethnic group but its the best you can ever hope for when you are dealing with human beings in modern society.
Do you really expect people not to stereotype other people?
Very convenient how all the posters who were appalled by my original "Dancing Monkey" comment completely forgot about the dancing, female, singer part and focused strictly on the monkey. Amazing how some peoples thoughts and perceptions focus their attention to only one part of that comment.
Now in post #118 I did write "...have either gone away..." so, sure, perhaps I assumed too much there but I think you have to agree that you exaggerate and misstate my words.
Once again,
Stereotypes are going nowhere. But positive stereotypes do exist. They may not be an accurate appraisal for a racial or ethnic group but its the best you can ever hope for when you are dealing with human beings in modern society.
Do you really expect people not to stereotype other people?
In no way... NO WAY am I saying that I expect no one to not stereotype. Where did you even get that from? You've done nothing but read what you wanted to read and put your own thoughts out to what I was REALLY saying.
In no way... NO WAY am I saying that I expect no one to not stereotype. Where did you even get that from? You've done nothing but read what you wanted to read and put your own thoughts out to what I was REALLY saying.
Like I said, waste of my time.
O.K. then please point me to the post number where you make your point.
That's all I ask.
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