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Yeah those "investigators" in Hawaii right? the ones' that "they are finding things that they couldn't believe"
notice how those "investigators" suddenly disappeared after the COLB was released?
No doubt back at work for Orly Taitz. Posted elsewhere during the primaries with some nutjobs whose theory was an "October Surprise" by Hillary...she was going to wait until the Dem convention, then POW!...produce Obama's real birth certificate. The madness never ends...
the only person lying here is Mario Apuzo, who your video maker cribbed from to establish this BS claim
Did you bother to read the links? No of course not.
A computer isn't the only thing that can do kerning.
These types of issues can cause a typewriter to cause kerning:
The speed of the type writer as it moves across the area as the paper is being typed on. If the typewriter isn't conditioned or serviced in a while, letters can begin to not line up; be positioned closer to each other. You've never used a typewriter before have you?
The speed at which you type can cause kerning, as the typewriter may not be able to catch up, causing letters to somewhat "overlap" into each other's spaces
Different Typewriter?
Different person typing on the typewriter?
A person who is actually a typist? Not a hunt-and-peck typist?
A person who actually is a fast typist?
A person who actually is a slower typist?
I never claimed that, and NO SANE person in this thread has ever claimed that
Naturalized is a person who BECAME A citizen through the naturalization process (taking an oath)
Natural born - born to a US Citizen parent and/or born on US SOIL
200 years of case history has proven this over and over again.
Spiro Agnew (39th Vice President) - his parents were immigrants - not naturalized, who was born on US soil in 1918.
Vice Presidents through the 20th Amendment are required to have the SAME qualifications as those seeking the office of the President of the United States.
Chester A Arthur's father was naturalized after Arthur was born.
Only a bigot would claim this. The 14th Amendment is quite clear:
No where in that section does it state:
Only pertains to slaves
This is for the slaves
All slaves born or naturalized
This amendment only provides those who were once slaves....
Only bigots try to argue that slaves were not citizens.
Wouldn't you want someone who was born here to be the LEADER of your country? not someone who was born and lived overseas his entire life, and then say "Hey, I'm going to be the leader of the largest free world nation in the world".
They were concerned of heavy influence of foreign nationals, so they the rules/requirements to make sure that the person being elected had the country's best interest at heart.
BTW, the 20th AMendment was passed to fix it so that VP's must also have the same requirements.
Yes, Senators and REpresentatives can be foreign born. but they are not leading the country. the POTUS and VPOTUS are.
Line of succession:
POTUS
VPOTUS
President of the Senate
Spearker of the House or Representatives
President Pro Tempore of the Senate
Secretary of the State
Secretary of the Treasury
Secretary of Defense
AG
and down the line.
And even though you don't have to be a natural born to be a Senator, its more likely that a person is natural born, to be in the of the President of the Senate.
BTW, there has only been 1 time in our history where the VP had to take over the duties of the POTUS. So unless some catastrophe of miraculous proportions happens that kills off both the POTUS and the VP; it'll be a cold day in hell before the President of the Senate actually has to take up the role of leading this country.
Our founding fathers were pretty smart.
do you comprehend that the US CONSTITUION is a LIVING document and that you are only SECOND GUESSING their "intent" ?
The Constitutional congress that formed to draft the US Constitution shows exactly what our founding fathers were thinking and believed, and there is no question that their "INTENT" was basing many of their laws on English Common Law (you, know that country that many of them or their parents LEFT to find a new life). This is addressed in the many documents and commented on by the founding fathers.
Birther world
Activist judge = Any judge that doesn't find Obama a non-citizen and throws him out of office.
I've been out of school a lot longer than you've probably been alive, considering how inadequate your knowledge of US history is.
You are trying so hard to keep this turd in office and make him into something he is not, such as eligible to be there. The 14th amendment was intended for the population of slaves, who had no status, upon being freed. It now applies to anybody born here, of illegal parents or not. An anchor baby is NOT a Natural Born citizen.
The Wong case chose to use British Common Law for it's ruling. That is not something the founders would have chosen, that is what they were escaping from.
Something interesting I just came across, which says that the resolution 511 that states McCain was eligible is not legally binding because the vote was not recorded. This gets tricky. I think you will appreciate this Arus. http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35358
Lastly, no I do not believe the Constitution is a living document. It is to be interpreted as the founders intended, nothing more, nothing less.
You are trying so hard to keep this turd in office and make him into something he is not, such as eligible to be there. The 14th amendment was intended for the population of slaves, who had no status, upon being freed. It now applies to anybody born here, of illegal parents or not. An anchor baby is NOT a Natural Born citizen.
The Wong case chose to use British Common Law for it's ruling. That is not something the founders would have chosen, that is what they were escaping from.
Please show us where in the 14th Amendment where it says "ONLY for SLAVES"
I'll post it again:
Quote:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
I do not see a single reference to SLAVES. It says ALL persons. Unless you and I are not persons, then this APPLIES TO EVERYONE born here.
Get it? Of course you don't.
Nice cut an paste from a birther website that provides pseudo legal arguments, from a non-Constitutional attorney. 4 types of citizens? Care to point to us in the Citizenship laws where these 4 citizens are defined? Not some birther site, I want it from a GOVERNMENT site.
Sorry, but that is the claims of a lunatic. there are only 2 types of citizens, and has been only 2 types : Naturalized and Natural/native born.
Anyone who claims otherwise are blowing smoke up your rear end.
Candafreepress? There isn't enough laughing smilies in this world to know that CFP is the World Nut Daily/Naitional Enquirer/Star Magazine of the north. Sane Canadians do not believe the BS in that rag.
Quote:
Lastly, no I do not believe the Constitution is a living document. It is to be interpreted as the founders intended, nothing more, nothing less.
Wow, you're pretty much as ignorant as they get. the US Constitution is a Living document because it is not set in stone. It is constantly subject to subtle interpretive change by the courts and major change by the passage of amendments.
You are trying so hard to keep this turd in office and make him into something he is not, such as eligible to be there. The 14th amendment was intended for the population of slaves, who had no status, upon being freed. It now applies to anybody born here, of illegal parents or not. An anchor baby is NOT a Natural Born citizen.
The Wong case chose to use British Common Law for it's ruling. That is not something the founders would have chosen, that is what they were escaping from.
Something interesting I just came across, which says that the resolution 511 that states McCain was eligible is not legally binding because the vote was not recorded. This gets tricky. I think you will appreciate this Arus. http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35358
Lastly, no I do not believe the Constitution is a living document. It is to be interpreted as the founders intended, nothing more, nothing less.
We have a Supreme Court precisely because the Constitution is a living document. So McCain wasn't really legit, but he's an idiot so it doesn't matter? LMAO! Spend more time "kerning" our posts and less writing more nonsense.
Funny how when someone presents information that goes against the liberal line, the liberal response is always something like "Bah!" "How ridiculous!" or "Give it a rest!" I was always taught that if you don't have something to contribute to a discussion, you shouldn't speak. Ridicule is not a contribution to the discussion, it provides no information. It is an attempt to intimidate someone into not saying anything in the future.
I, for one, would like to see all the information and analyses by proponents of all the sides, so I can decide what is plausible, what is possible, and what is likely. If someone would analyze the certificate and claim it's real for reasons A, B, and C, I'd love to see that too.
I am suspicious of government always, because I learned a lot over the past 30 years as an adult. The years have proven that NO politician has ANY integrity, ethics or morals, and the higher you go, the worse the problem. Although Obama may have been born in Hawaii, why wasn't a birth certificate provided before? There is always a reason, and it is always something that would really be damaging if it got out. So there is at least a chance this is a forgery, and it does no harm to consider the evidence.
And considering how much effort our media/government puts into distracting Americans from the devastating and declining economy, you'd think they'd be happy we focused on something small like this, since there's nothing any of us could do even if it were PROVEN Obama was born in Africa.
it's from the "ALMOST FACTUAL NEWS" section of the SD reader. it's a lampoon.
Pwnd.
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