Psst, Democrats: ObamaCare already ended Medicare as we know it

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

A foundry is a factory that produces metal castings. Metals are cast into shapes by melting them into a liquid, pouring the metal in a mold, and removing the mold material or casting after the metal has solidified as it cools.

Unless it is the name of a company....

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

Unless it is the name of a company....

I've hearing about a business with the name on ESPN radio lately, for big and tall people. However, I was speaking of the purpose of a foundry and the effect seen on some people. It would be even more amusing to see if the company you imply actually thought along the lines, leading to using the name, that I implied.

[renault]

MediScare from the Left-


AP FACT CHECK: Democrats Distort GOP Medicare Plan

Democrats are distorting the fundamentals of a Republican plan to reshape Medicare, falsely accusing the GOP of pushing a proposal that tells the elderly "you're on your own" with health care and that lets insurers deny coverage to the sick.

Medicare always pushes hot buttons with voters. Both parties know this and spare no effort to exploit the issue, with truth as the frequent casualty. That's the case now as Democrats go after a far-reaching plan introduced by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and largely embraced by congressional Republicans.

[JimMe]

Originally Posted by hammertime33

Which partly undoes Medicare Advantage. However, it doesn't go far enough in reversing that monstrosity of a bill the Republicans and Bush forced through in 2003.

Apparently that "monstrosity" is quite popular with seniors. A full 25% of seniors have opted for Medicare Advantage over traditional Medicare. Why? Because it gives them choices that a one-size-fits-all Medicare plan does not afford. In effect Medicare Advantage is a modified voucher plan. The only difference between that and what Ryan proposes is that the voucher (or subsidy) which now goes directly to the insurance companies would, instead, be paid to the retiree, further enhancing the senior's ability to shop and choose the medical insurance that best meets their needs.

Incidentally, some people on CD seem to think that Medicare is free. Not so. Each recipient pays a premium for Part B coverage, currently $114.00 per month. And because Medicare is a 80/20 insurance plan most retirees need to purchase a Medigap policy to cover what Medicare doesn't pay. Finally Medicare Part D provides seniors a subsidy to purchase an insurance policy to cover prescriptions. So there is an out-of-pocket expense for that premium, as well.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by JimMe

Apparently that "monstrosity" is quite popular with seniors. A full 25% of seniors have opted for Medicare Advantage over traditional Medicare. Why? Because it gives them choices that a one-size-fits-all Medicare plan does not afford. In effect Medicare Advantage is a modified voucher plan. The only difference between that and what Ryan proposes is that the voucher (or subsidy) which now goes directly to the insurance companies would, instead, be paid to the retiree, further enhancing the senior's ability to shop and choose the medical insurance that best meets their needs.

Incidentally, some people on CD seem to think that Medicare is free. Not so. Each recipient pays a premium for Part B coverage, currently $114.00 per month. And because Medicare is a 80/20 insurance plan most retirees need to purchase a Medigap policy to cover what Medicare doesn't pay. Finally Medicare Part D provides seniors a subsidy to purchase an insurance policy to cover prescriptions. So there is an out-of-pocket expense for that premium, as well.

Problem #1: Medicare Advantage was never paid for with tax cuts.
Problem #2: Such programs that have Medicare backing are different than if the elderly had to get it on their own. Medicare Advantage exists and works because of Medicare. Try taking out Medicare and see how it goes for the elderly.