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This quote right here reveals what is the actual motivation behind white peoples obsession with muslim females: White boys want access to them. Whites truly don't care about the "liberation or equality" of muslim females, what they actually want is to see what's underneath the Burqa.
um no... I'm white, and gay.. don't want any of that yuckiness... *shivers*.. but what I would like to see is muslim women being treated like human beings and not indoctrinated with religious male dominated horse crap. If i was a woman in an islamic country I'd be put to death because I'd dress like a skank and carry a big gun.. lets just say I'd go out with a bang
religion is evil.. it corrupts the mind to be under the control of a religious figure or leader because you're led to believe your eternal salvation is at stake..good and right are good and right.. not because of jesus, mohammad or some god...or because your eternal salvation even exists... it's good because it's what you would want for yourself in this life..in this moment.... Islam mistreats women.. PERIOD.
Wow, what an incredible thread. White supremacy is the single most destructive ideaolgy that has dominated global affairs for the last 500 years. It has engaged in unparralled violence, bloodshed, terrorism and warfare, while at the same time consigning stunningly vast numbers of non-whites to lives of misery and destitution all with the goal of maintaining the myth of white superiority.
Looking at the comments on this thread I wonder if the whites posting on this thread would feel that it's okay for them to be held accountable for the crimes committed by the fellow members of their race?
I bet it wouldn"t.
white supremecy? has nothing to do with race.. but culture.. european cultures competed for global dominance amongst themselves.. the rest of the world was just their casualties.. it is sad..but we can't go back and change it..it is what it is.. but don't make it about race..it's not fair or accurate..Many white peoples of europe during those 500 some years you refer to were victims of their own national policies hence the waves of poor peasants with nothing but the shirts on their backs leaving europe in the 19th and 20th century.. Some countries like Norway saw HALF of their population LEAVE for america..for these millions it was not about them being white and better than someone non white.. it was about being poor, mistreated, zero opportunity, starvation in many instances and taking it upon themselves to seek out a better life. not every white person was a native american killer, or african slave owner.. in fact many white irish and italian immigrants were essentially used as slave labor during the industrial revolution. check yourself!
Gees i wonder why there is misconceptions. A lot of dumb Americans and a lot of Ignorant Muslims. Ummmmmmmmmmm no muslim women and girls are not treated the same as the Men, or boys, my daughter knew a muslim years ago she worked with. And no, sorry charlie, she was not at all treated the way American Women and girls are treated with repsect. She was not, my daughter was told all sorts of stories about how she was raised, and it was not pretty, to much control of the daughter. Some muslim Fathers are as------! they treat their wives and women, as if they are slaves, and they have to obey them or else and you know it. If their is any misconceptions on Americans behalf, talk to those who lost loved ones on 9/11, and see what you come away with.
First of let me start of by saying I am Muslim guy. When I tell a stranger I am Muslim often enough they have tons of misconceptions. Then there are people I know and I tell them I am Muslim. They are usually surprised since I don't seem like the Muslims they have in their mind. Here is a short list of what I have seen:
1.) Americans think all Muslim are foreigners and they have a foreign home country to go back to. But I was born in US and only have US citizenship, I definitely don't have another country to go back to! I know a lot Muslim in younger generation are in similar situation as me.
2.) For some reason Muslims immediately associated as fundamentalist. But I know a lot of Muslims, like me, who aren't religious. For example, I would never take the Koran literally or say it is 100% right. I will admit there are lot of stupid things written in Koran when I read it last long time ago!
3.) Many westerners expect Muslim women to wear Hijab or Burka. No women in my immediate family or friends wear anything to cover their heads. Often some people are surprised to hear they are Muslim.
4.) A lot of Americans things all Muslim are extremely socially conservative. I most defintely am not. I am all for Gay Marriage, legalization of illegal drugs and prostitution!
I seriously do thing people then lump all these different people, like Muslim, into one big category. They really need to realize not all Muslims are alike!
unseengundam several highly unfortunate things have happened with Islam to make people scared of it:
1.) Al Qeda has successfully attacked us with every conceivable profile of human being. The only thing that all have in common: They're all Muslim. Many seemed very peaceful. Some were born in the USA and were even proud American citizens at some point (or seemed to be?) So no matter how reasonable, peaceful, levelheaded and nonviolent you might seem to be, several somebodies who were just as harmless seeming have killed or tried to kill Americans enmasse.
2.) Israel and Muslim reaction to it. In terms of land grab, it's just tiny. See here: http://www.city-data.com/forum/19353963-post36.html . People in America and around the world see Muslims working themselves into a very angry very violent mass of people over Israel. And yet virtually every Muslim controlled nation in the Middle East treats Christians and other minorities like garbage -- and seldom with any amount of human dignity. Turkey and Sudan have massacred a ridiculous number of Christians. Muslims have massacred a ridiculous number of their fellow Muslims. It 's absolutely bizarre that virtually all Muslims love to obsess over Islam when there are far worse things happening in the Muslim world.
3.) It just takes a few forced marriages and honor killings that happen in the USA to get people wondering if that's what Islam is all about.
4.) You have a recurring theme: Liberal open minded Muslims (like yourself from the sound of it) meet some imman who inspires them to be "more like a real Muslim." And a year later they're trying to bomb a passenger airplane.
5.) There are too many extremely brash and loud Muslims around spouting off about how Islam will conquer everything in the world. It effectively makes all Muslim Americans somebody who might help them do just that given the chance.
6.) Unfortunately, some of the conspiracy theories about Islam have proven to be true -- at least in the cases of some Muslims. How do you really know if you can trust any Muslim?
The teachings of Islam are -- for the most part -- good words to live by. It's the extremely ugly things we see actual Muslims doing that makes the world scared of them.
Another misconceptions that I have anything to do with or feel brotherly towards other Muslims. Especially, I have nothing much in common with those Muslim in other countries, instead I have a lot more in common with Americans compared to them! They are definitely NOT my people!
I will even go on to say I would never live in some those hell hole Muslim countries. They have serious stupidly strict rules and probably hang me for my views. You will not see me put effort into defending these fundamentalist. Yes I am willing to admit I am actually quite lucky to have been born in USA where I can say things that may insult others.
You are here to educate us dumb Americans about Muslims, right?
So what makes you a Muslim? What sect are you? Where are your relatives from? Do you think Jews are monkeys and dogs? We happen to like dogs around here. Do you attend a mosque? Do you give money to any Islamic cause or charity. Educate us.
This quote right here reveals what is the actual motivation behind white peoples obsession with muslim females: White boys want access to them. Whites truly don't care about the "liberation or equality" of muslim females, what they actually want is to see what's underneath the Burqa.
Sigh... Another afrocentric pseudo-intellectual/caucasian hating nut on the loose. I had many run ins with these misguided "geniuses" during my five long years in Atlanta, GA. In all that time I never met one who had the foggiest idea what really makes white people tick. It seems that the more they study them, the less they understand. Case in point: I've yet to meet a fellow caucasian who has the slightest sexual interest in muslim women. So you read Nietzschea? Proof that a little knowledge is dangerous.
This quote right here reveals what is the actual motivation behind white peoples obsession with muslim females: White boys want access to them. Whites truly don't care about the "liberation or equality" of muslim females, what they actually want is to see what's underneath the Burqa.
What on God's green Earth are you talking about? Since when are "whites" obsessed with muslim women? That is the first that I have ever heard about a white male obsession with muslim women. What I HAVE heard is muslim men's obsession with porn, hookers, and sex with very young boys who dress up and dance as women. Maybe if your religion wasn't so repressed and backwards.... just sayin'.
white supremecy? has nothing to do with race.. but culture.. european cultures competed for global dominance amongst themselves.. the rest of the world was just their casualties.. it is sad..but we can't go back and change it..it is what it is.. but don't make it about race..it's not fair or accurate..Many white peoples of europe during those 500 some years you refer to were victims of their own national policies hence the waves of poor peasants with nothing but the shirts on their backs leaving europe in the 19th and 20th century.. Some countries like Norway saw HALF of their population LEAVE for america..for these millions it was not about them being white and better than someone non white.. it was about being poor, mistreated, zero opportunity, starvation in many instances and taking it upon themselves to seek out a better life. not every white person was a native american killer, or african slave owner.. in fact many white irish and italian immigrants were essentially used as slave labor during the industrial revolution. check yourself!
Nietzschean Gangsta will find no trouble in dismissing the above facts for his mind is governed not by reason, but dogma.
Sigh... Another afrocentric pseudo-intellectual/caucasian hating nut on the loose. I had many run ins with these misguided "geniuses" during my five long years in Atlanta, GA. In all that time I never met one who had the foggiest idea what really makes white people tick. It seems that the more they study them, the less they understand. Case in point: I've yet to meet a fellow caucasian who has the slightest sexual interest in muslim women. So you read Nietzschea? Proof that a little knowledge is dangerous.
Hey Zekester, do yourself a favor, never reply to any of my post again until you familiarize yourself with whatever it is you seek to criticize. I am neither an Afrocentrist nor anti-white. I am Existentialist. I do not know what makes white people tick, but I do know what makes white supremacy tick. How so, what informs me? 400 years of American history. Just as it would you also, if you've ever studied it. In regards to Muslim women, Frantz Fanon in his essay "Algeria Unveiled" has dealt with the obsession of the west with muslim women and the veil. It is not afrocentrist nor a pseudo-intellectual rant, it is an existential analysis of a contempory situation.
Yes, I read Nietzsche. You don't. I also read Kierkegaard, Camus and Sartre as well as some postmoderist writers, in particular Baudrillard. If your interested in understanding white supremacy from an existential standpoint--which I'm sure you're not--Lewis R Gordonis is an excellent writer.
Nietzschean Gangsta will find no trouble in dismissing the above facts for his mind is governed not by reason, but dogma.
I challenge you to prove this. Recant this position or be exposed as a know nothing.
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Here is a short list of what I have seen:
