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This is saying that child support is around $300 more a month than what it should be, in my view. You called it "extra" yourself.
Oh of course! When parents get divorced or break up then the one with primary custody should be the one footing the bills! How foolish of me to think otherwise *rolls eyes*.
Heres something else to think about. Those poor girls knowing that they might have to raise a child without a father, might urge them to take contraception or keep their legs closed a little bit more often.
Have sex if you will, but there are consequences to go along with stupidity. And again, she still has options for abortions and adoption if she still doesn't want the child.
Oh of course! When parents get divorced or break up then the one with primary custody should be the one footing the bills! How foolish of me to think otherwise *rolls eyes*.
I agree with that, too.
Involuntary child support just encourages bad decisions, like divorce, or having kids you can't afford. These should be discouraged, not encouraged.
Both the man AND the woman are "to blame" for an unwanted pregnancy. So approving of a woman opting out of parenthood (getting an abortion, even if the father wants the child) and not approving of a man opting out is blaming the man more than the woman. So many of you are making this perfectly clear when you say things like "The man shouldn't have gotten her pregnant then". Yet, when someone says the WOMAN considering an abortion shouldn't have gotten pregnant, it's just so awful
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Originally Posted by Lucidkitty
Oh of course! When parents get divorced or break up then the one with primary custody should be the one footing the bills! How foolish of me to think otherwise *rolls eyes*.
That IS how it should be. With rights come responsibilities; do we not at least agree on THAT? How would you feel if your kid was taken from you and you were ordered by a judge to give the person who took your kid away money?
Both the man AND the woman are "to blame" for an unwanted pregnancy. So approving of a woman opting out of parenthood (getting an abortion, even if the father wants the child) and not approving of a man opting out is blaming the man more than the woman. So many of you are making this perfectly clear when you say things like "The man shouldn't have gotten her pregnant then". Yet, when someone says the WOMAN considering an abortion shouldn't have gotten pregnant, it's just so awful
That IS how it should be. With rights come responsibilities; do we not at least agree on THAT? How would you feel if your kid was taken from you and you were ordered by a judge to give the person who took your kid away money?
18-year ransom installment plans, aye!
If the child is 'taken' from you then there is reasoning behind it my friend. And yes you still have a responsibility even if you lost them because it's of no fault to the child you are a moron.
Yes, and women get a choice beyond that day of "tango", the man doesn't.
That isn't equal rights.
Women have access to the morning after pill, abortions, and adoption. If the woman decides to keep the child, or if she decides to have an abortion, the man gets 0 say. Now, again, I am not saying a man should have the right to tell a woman she has to have an abortion, or can't get one. But I am saying that a woman shouldn't be able to tell a man he has to work 18 years for a child he doesn't want either.
Yes, and women get a choice beyond that day of "tango", the man doesn't.
That isn't equal rights.
Women have access to the morning after pill, abortions, and adoption. If the woman decides to keep the child, or if she decides to have an abortion, the man gets 0 say. Now, again, I am not saying a man should have the right to tell a woman she has to have an abortion, or can't get one. But I am saying that a woman shouldn't be able to tell a man he has to work 18 years for a child he doesn't want either.
They can choose to wear a condom and practice safe sex.
And yes you still have a responsibility even if you lost them because it's of no fault to the child you are a moron.
A. We just went over this, you and I. The child is not NECESSARILY going to suffer any adverse consequences just because his/her biological father isn't giving his/her mom money.
B. Why are we assuming that every man who loses custody of his child is a moron? Maybe the JUDGE was a moron, and the child and the father are BOTH paying the price for it?
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Yes, and women get a choice beyond that day of "tango", the man doesn't.
That isn't equal rights.
And you just need to stop telling it like it is altogether
A. We just went over this, you and I. The child is not NECESSARILY going to suffer any adverse consequences just because his/her biological father isn't giving his/her mom money.
B. Why are we assuming that every man who loses custody of his child is a moron? Maybe the JUDGE was a moron, and the child and the father are BOTH paying the price for it?
And you just need to stop telling it like it is altogether
Doubtful since most often custody is decided before court comes into play,and when it goes to court joint custody is usually ordered, then i would say that's probably the case. Courts in the end want a stable life for the child, and are not apt to take rights away unless there is validity to it. So any parent who loses access to their child has given sufficient cause on why that should be the case. And as for your first point that is subjective to the person, and not for anyone to really determine for them.
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