How come liberals always preach diversity but rarely live in diversity. (border, solution)

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by NYChistorygal

Pot, meet Kettle.

LOL. I'm still laughing at the whole premise of this thread, for a few reasons... one being that MOST diverse cities vote overwhelmingly Democrat, which kinda ends the argument right there. And I'm still waiting for an answer to the earlier question, "how does one preach diversity?" What is their definition of such a thing?

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by Avondrood

Something I also often mock my liberal friends about. Always blabbering about the fruits of diversity, but themselves safely living in a white suburb or a hip white city-center, sending their children to all-white schools. I always tell them the same thing: when you're such a diversity champion, go live in the Arab neighborhoods and send your children to "black" schools. See how long you'll stáy liberal after that .

I lived in a predominantly Black neighborhood for years, and worked at a school that was respectively 1/3 Black, Asian/PI & Hispanic (literally NO Caucasian kids). I loved my time in that neighborhood and school, and actually miss it now that I've moved. I would have no problem sending my kids to that school, either, but I don't have any kids yet. So again, we cannot assume all "liberals" are of the same mindset as the OP's friends.

[Violett]

Originally Posted by Redshadowz

The people that I have seen who are supportive of diversity, are usually either the most distant from it, or have only been touched by the more positive qualities of diversity(like food, parades, etc). The real liberals are almost always whites who have been brought up in wealthy environments, surrounded by basically the good people of all backgrounds, and enjoy the diversity as basically a level of entertainment. Learning about other peoples histories and cultures is very interesting, eating food from all over the world can be seemingly never-ending fun.

When it comes to those wealthy whites, most of the diversity they are surrounded by from day to day is from Asians. Asians tend to be very wealthy and socially responsible, so the white/asian partnership is the primary foundation for the idea that diversity is such a good thing. And honestly, if there were only whites and Asians(especially East Asians) in this country(like in much of Canada), then it would be much more difficult to paint diversity or multi-racialism in a bad light.

In those same neighorhoods, there are also usually a small cross-section of blacks and people of other backgrounds, but they tend to behave much more like the whites and Asians than they do their own people(whatever that means). So, the small amount of contact these liberals have with people of other races, is almost always in a more positive or at least neutral way, and in that sense, it is easy to understand why liberals tend to have a much more egalitarian/inclusive stance towards diversity.


Where I have personally gone downhill was in the past few years. I have gone from being mostly insulated in those safe suburbs, to being forced to actually see and be more apart of the bad of the world. I have been forced to learn the flaws of humanity through contact with basically the filth of this world, for whom there is no hope.

I used to believe that the poor were only poor because they weren't raised in the right environments and given the right opportunities. The reality is that, most poor people are poor because they have mental deficiencies of some type or another. Either they are literally crazy, or they have some sort of mental illness, like schizophrenia, some are bi-polar or exhibit psychotic/anti-social behavior. Some of them are just incredibly unintelligent and just simply lack the capacity to learn or apply concepts, you can work with them all you want, but it is futile, they just can't do it. It isn't their fault, they were just born that way. A large percentage of them are highly susceptible to addiction or have no impulse control(stealing, gambling, aggression, etc). Then, you have people with physical disabilities, but a great many of those disabilities are actually genetic, not as a result of some sort of work-related accident.

What I am saying is that for the vast majority of poor people, there just is no hope. They are destined to stay poor their entire lives, and there really isn't much that can be done to change anything, outside of just handing them money all the time. The problem isn't so much that they are poor, its that since the reason they are poor is generally related to mental issues, then the relative abundance of people with those issues in such a small area tends to make the area a place full of crime, violence, and just generally a place any sane person does not want to be.


I am still in essence a liberal, I am not necessarily opposed to people of other backgrounds, as long as there is some kind of mechanism in place to eliminate the bad of the world. The liberal mindset tends to be to help people who are in need, but it doesn't actually address the real causes of why people are in need to begin with. Liberals tend to believe that throwing money at any problem is the cure. And being as supposedly scientific as they try to be, they seem to completely ignore the realities of genetics, and try to explain away all inequality through sociology(which cannot be done).

I have become more right-wing, because the actual effect of liberalism is to subsidize not only bad behavior, but bad genetics(which continue to perpetuate themselves). The end result of liberalism, is to increase crime, to lower productivity, and to invoke more class warfare and racism. I believe that the only way to eliminate the bad of the world, is to take away its ability to spread. If we don't do it through eugenics/anti-dysgenics(IE involuntary sterilizations), then I would starve them out or kill them off by stripping away their free food and free healthcare.

I'm so evil.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. However, we'll never have eugenics in America; what will happen is our govt. will run out of money eventually and those who aren't smart enough to fend for themselves will eventually starve to death and be killed off by the others living in the ghetto that are smarter and more aggressive than them. Sort of like what already happens now with gang violence.

[jeffington]

Originally Posted by roofis

I'm wealthier than many of my liberal friends, we were all born and raised in a middle class town on LI. Since they aquired their wealth, they have moved to the most "educated,artsy" community that they could which is predominetly white and Asian. Meanwhile I still live in the same town that I grew up in which has gone somewhat down hill because of diversity. I'll be moving soon because its getting bad, but i noticed my liberal friends high-tailed out of here as soon as they could and very rarely came back. Yet everytime we get together they always bring up diversity, and all the cultural things they do such as Shakespeare in the Park and museums. Why is that?

Because liberals by their very nature, burned into their very core. never live up to any of the standards they wish to inflict on others.

[TheDirector]

I think the OP needs to watch this video


YouTube - ‪Idiocracy Intro (HR titlovi)‬‏

[mackinac81]

Originally posted by jeffington
Because liberals by their very nature, burned into their very core. never live up to any of the standards they wish to inflict on others.

Well, thank God for experts like you to inform everyone what all of us liberals are really like. And since when was diversity something to "inflict" on someone?

[migee]

Originally Posted by Deezus

I guess someone forgot to tell all those liberals living in ethnically diverse cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco...

Also the OPs premise(and preceding comments) seem to assume that all liberals are white...

Each of the cities you mention mostly have clearly defined lines between neighborhoods. Moslty defining black areas (as the other groups, depending on their financial situations, tend to live outside of the black areas...including the better-off white liberals).

There are some border line areas where the whites (many of them considering themselves liberals) tend to infringe back into the black areas - and that is to take advantage of the lower cost, larger houses..on the fringe of the black areas.

As a matter of fact, it is a bone of contention with many blacks...as these whites tend to re-segregate the schools, or not even send their kids to the local schools.

And they certainly do not tend to venture far into the black areas, to socialize or shop, or even to take a walk...Read the local papers for these areas.

[migee]

Originally Posted by mackinac81

Well, thank God for experts like you to inform everyone what all of us liberals are really like. And since when was diversity something to "inflict" on someone?

You make an excellent point...liberals would never "inflict " diversity...For instance...with the 100 or so people in the Kennedy clan, that fearlessly fighting family for racial equality, they would never be pretentious with one of their own ever having a relationship with someone from let's say...the African race...

Of all the Kennedys, and all their children, I've never heard of one being in a mixed race relationship...Or, am I wrong?...

With so many of them, and the fact that they are crusaders for racial equality...I would imagine that they would have someone in their fold in an inter-racial marriage...Who am I missing?

I believe in the USA the rate for whites to be married to a black is about 1% (while of course for blacks it would be greater, due to the percentage of presence in the population).

I'm sure for someone like the liberal Kennedys it would be up to 3, 4 or 5%..

Or, are they just hypocrites also?

[Frank_Carbonni]

Originally Posted by Deezus

I guess someone forgot to tell all those liberals living in ethnically diverse cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco...

Also the OPs premise(and preceding comments) seem to assume that all liberals are white...

The cities themselves might be diverse, but the neighborhoods certainly are not. Gentrification, White Flight, and de facto segregation are very real in those cities.

Indianapolis and Milwaukee are more integrated than any of the above.

[ZGACK]

Originally Posted by SourD

Because in reality, Liberals are racists and they would never share their "living quarters" with such people. I know someone like that. A raging liberal but moved to a gated 99% white community.

Liberalism and racism go hand in hand. The words are interchangeable.