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Old 06-15-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Oh God. I've answered this question like a billion times.

It's possible to disagree with somebody's homosexuality (whatever that means) or to feel that homosexuality is wrong or unnatural without being homophobic. It's rare, but it's possible.

It becomes homophobia when your fear of homosexuality leads you down the road of repressing homosexuals. If you believe sodomy should be illegal - you're a homophobe. If you think gays should have certain civil rights taken away (like the rights of civil marriage, the right to serve in the military, etc) - you're a homophobe.

I disagree with Christianity (religion in general). However, I'm not a christianaphobe. I don't call for making sex between Christians illegal. I don't call for banning Christians from contracting civil marriages or serving in the military. See the difference?
So, according to your own words, the overwhelming majority of people who disagree with homosexuality are homophobes with SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDERS? Right. And having the belief that marriage is a partnering between a man and a woman qualifies a person as having a SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER? I think not.

 
Old 06-15-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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No. I haven't. You guys can do what you want in your home. I honestly don't care. Don't try to force it on society, though.

That's just a bald-faced lie. You do it all the time on here. You're constantly advocating that I have fewer civil rights that you simply because I'm a homosexual.
 
Old 06-15-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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This makes no sense to me. How again am I either heterophobic or christianophobic?

I've never once called for heterosexuals or Christians being treated unequally under the law. I've never once advocated for heterosexuals or Christians having fewer civil rights than homosexuals.
Do you support Christianity or feel that Christians are decent people?
 
Old 06-15-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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That's just a bald-faced lie. You do it all the time on here. You're constantly advocating that I have fewer civil rights that you simply because I'm a homosexual.
Please quote me then. Shouldn't be difficult if I do it all the time.
 
Old 06-15-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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That's just a bald-faced lie. You do it all the time on here. You're constantly advocating that I have fewer civil rights that you simply because I'm a homosexual.
And now we see who really does have an irrational fear of something. Everyone is out to get the homos, run and hide!
 
Old 06-15-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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I've never met anyone with an irrational fear of homosexuals. Honestly...do people REALLY fear a bunch of flamboyantly dressed men chasing them down to give them a makeover or what?
You actually believe that the vast majority of gay men are "flamboyantly dressed men" Thanks for providing an example of stereotyping that causes some to come to false conclusions and make foolish statements
Casper
 
Old 06-15-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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If you believe sodomy should be illegal - you're a homophobe. If you think gays should have certain civil rights taken away (like the rights of civil marriage, the right to serve in the military, etc) - you're a homophobe.
The more I think about this, the more I question it. Please, show me the medical definition of homophobia that qualifies a person as a homophobe for believing that traditional marriage is between a man and a woman.
 
Old 06-15-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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I never said you or anyone else was. But you can't force me to agree that you're morally right in doing so. To do so is wrong.
Isn't that the entire point of religion? To tell people what is morally right and what is morally wrong?

I agree that to do so is wrong.
 
Old 06-15-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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What about people who simply feel that homosexuality is just wrong/unnatural? Are they considered "homophobes" too? Because according to many on this forum, they are and I seriously doubt that would fall under that category of a "serious psychological condition".

Kinda punches a hole in the liberal's definition of a homophobe now, doesn't it?
How can something prevalent in nature be "unnatural"? Do you know what unnatural means?
 
Old 06-15-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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You actually believe that the vast majority of gay men are "flamboyantly dressed men" Thanks for providing an example of stereotyping that causes some to come to false conclusions and make foolish statements
Casper
It seems most people think that all Christian pastors are rolex-wearing, toupee-wearing shysters in $3000 suits with private jets. At least according to the stereotypes that get thrown around.

I understand the concept of hyperbole. Do you? I was making an intentional exaggeration. I question the concept of homosexuality. Why would I fear a homosexual?
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