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So true. I feel bad for people convicted of drunk driving crimes who've caused no harm to anyone. I don't condone drunk driving, but I reject the idea of "victimless crimes".
Different situation.
It is evident that anyone past a certain limit of alcohol in their bloodstream has slower reaction rates. This has been tested over and over an NONE when tested past the legal limit can successfully pass the proficiency and reaction time tests within these experiments.
Texting, cellphone use, etc... and driving is dependent on the person and their ability to properly time their use of such a device as well as divide their time and still be able to react to any given situation within a reasonable amount of time.
Police officers train to use their radios and touch screens while high speed driving. If it was an evident fact that all could not properly apply use of such devices while driving, then they would not be allowed such use, much less in high speed scenarios.
The point is, these laws are blanket laws that have no reasonable means to defend their generalized claim such as drunk driving can be positioned as.
After reading what people post here, it probably wouldn't hurt.
I am far better equipped and educated as to the risk I take of any given situation I participate and those to which I choose to take such risks are my sole responsibility and no business of any other.
This is what individual liberty means. We are either for it, or we are against it.
It is evident that anyone past a certain limit of alcohol in their bloodstream has slower reaction rates. This has been tested over and over an NONE when tested past the legal limit can successfully pass the proficiency and reaction time tests within these experiments.
Texting, cellphone use, etc... and driving is dependent on the person and their ability to properly time their use of such a device as well as divide their time and still be able to react to any given situation within a reasonable amount of time.
Police officers train to use their radios and touch screens while high speed driving. If it was an evident fact that all could not properly apply use of such devices while driving, then they would not be allowed such use, much less in high speed scenarios.
The point is, these laws are blanket laws that have no reasonable means to defend their generalized claim such as drunk driving can be positioned as.
Why should someone who has hurt no one be punished for something that didn't happen?
Why should someone who has hurt no one be punished for something that didn't happen?
While I understand the point you are getting at, people who drink and drive lack the ability to drive in a safe manner or react to any situation as necessary even when they intentionally choose to. The factor in this situation is the alcohol to which can not be mitigated if the person is at such levels. It isn't an issue of individuals being better at worse at drunk driving, all of them are below an acceptable level to be able to do such and that puts other people in danger with no ability by their hand to change.
This is not the same as texting, cell phone use, etc... people can do these tasks safely, providing they do such at appropriate times and with proper awareness.
While I understand the point you are getting at, people who drink and drive lack the ability to drive in a safe manner or react to any situation as necessary even when they intentionally choose to. The factor in this situation is the alcohol to which can not be mitigated if the person is at such levels. It isn't an issue of individuals being better at worse at drunk driving, all of them are below an acceptable level to be able to do such and that puts other people in danger with no ability by their hand to change.
This is not the same as texting, cell phone use, etc... people can do these tasks safely, providing they do such at appropriate times and with proper awareness.
But they don't...... I see them drivong as bad if not worse than drunks.
I see them means I drive a truck, and can look down and see the devices on the seat and watch the people texting.
But they don't...... I see them drivong as bad if not worse than drunks.
And I see people who are looking at the road and not texting drive just as poorly. Yet, that is not grounds to revoke the license of all drivers is it?
These issues are case to case, individual to individual. I use a cell phone, note-pad, even updated my PDA or laptop at my side while driving all over my state when I was a tech while never once getting into any situation that was remotely dangerous or driving in a manner to which would even elude to you that I was driving in any such manner.
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Originally Posted by Mac_Muz
I see them means I drive a truck, and can look down and see the devices on the seat and watch the people texting.
My father used to drive a truck as well, so I know that you see a lot of things, but you also know that stupidity and dangerous driving is not a result of the devices they are messing with, but because they are inattentive drivers in the first place and no amount of laws will change these inattentive drivers from being such. All these laws do is to penalize those who are attentive and responsible and force them into the same punishments as these idiots. You can't make society safe by relegating everyone to the restrictions of the lowest common denominator.
What you can do is make punishments for cases of irresponsible driving strong and EXTREMELY severe if they harm someone due to them. That won't keep it from happening, but it will punish those who are responsible without infringing on the liberties of those who are responsible.
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