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Old 06-29-2011, 09:49 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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That's all well and good if they weren't also investigating multiple other areas. They can say those are the only reasons as much as they want to, but we all know what tipped it in favor of SC.
Actually,it seems only you know those other reasons....

I would think already having a tire recycling facility had something to do with it...

and there is this:
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"We are looking to acquire the site and team up with Energy City," said Sergi, adding that existing infrastructure allows the company to begin operations quicker than in any other location.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:52 AM
 
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This brings me back to the discussion about how people on the right think that others should just "appreciate" the fact that they get a job... nevermind the fact that they are making less, have less (if any) benefits, and have worse working conditions.
Well since the left seems to think that a job is something that needs to be given to people, a little appreciation seems in order...

Making less than what? Why would they accept a job offer to make less? Same question for your other claims. My guess is that the situations for those people hired will be improved, otherwise they shouldn't take the job.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I hope those new jobs don't go to illegal aliens, though.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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Good. Lots of my buddies live in Moncks Corner.

I'd say that high fuel costs contribute to this. When gas is cheap it makes more sense to ship rubber back and forth across the pacific ocean.


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Better Business Environment = Worse Workers' Environment

Our system cannot handle this sort of relationship. For now, it is better for us to strive for a balance between these two areas.

we are the land of protestantism, where working hard is (in theory) sacred. Postwar SC has a history of poor tenant farmers, mill workers, hunting your own food, and knowing how to cook the whole damn pig, not just the expensive cuts. The mentality here is different than Minnesota, or New Jersey, wherever. South Carolinians "can handle" this situation a great deal better than some union state where they strike so they can afford to buy a bigger bass boat. Having a job IS something to be thankful for.

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Old 06-29-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Well since the left seems to think that a job is something that needs to be given to people, a little appreciation seems in order...

Making less than what? Why would they accept a job offer to make less? Same question for your other claims. My guess is that the situations for those people hired will be improved, otherwise they shouldn't take the job.
You don't get it.

Say there are a bunch of jobs that pay a salary of $40,000, give decent benefits, and have well regulated working conditions.

These jobs are then outsourced to China where labor is cheaper. Americans lose their jobs and spend a while on unemployment.

Politicians then implement extremely pro-business policies.

Jobs return to the people, but now they are only making a salary $27,500, they have no benefits, and their working conditions are not regulated and poor.


This is the whole "race to the bottom" argument. This is an example of a false recovery that undermines the middle class in America. We will never be able to return the middle class in America to the grand heights it enjoyed if we sacrifice the standard of living of the workers like this.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Besides a good business environment?
Short term, or long? At what cost? A few years ago, my company (one of the largest corporations today) was debating setting up its headquarter in New York or in Dallas. The choice was... New York. Would you see it had to be due to good business environment?
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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You don't get it.

Say there are a bunch of jobs that pay a salary of $40,000, give decent benefits, and have well regulated working conditions.

These jobs are then outsourced to China where labor is cheaper. Americans lose their jobs and spend a while on unemployment.

Politicians then implement extremely pro-business policies.

Jobs return to the people, but now they are only making a salary $27,500, they have no benefits, and their working conditions are not regulated and poor.


This is the whole "race to the bottom" argument. This is an example of a false recovery that undermines the middle class in America. We will never be able to return the middle class in America to the grand heights it enjoyed if we sacrifice the standard of living of the workers like this.
That isn't what happened here. The working conditions in SC are still regulated just as they would have been at the time this company would have left.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Reminds me of the Chinese company who built a factory in SC with the American and Chinese flags side-by-side.

This is certainly a better step, but the fight is far from over. There are obvious reasons why they chose SC.



SC just a step above China in treatment of the working class.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Well you could make stuff up or you could read the article and see what reasons were given.
I bet 8.50 per hour no vacation and no health insurance.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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You don't get it.

Say there are a bunch of jobs that pay a salary of $40,000, give decent benefits, and have well regulated working conditions.

These jobs are then outsourced to China where labor is cheaper. Americans lose their jobs and spend a while on unemployment.

Politicians then implement extremely pro-business policies.

Jobs return to the people, but now they are only making a salary $27,500, they have no benefits, and their working conditions are not regulated and poor.


This is the whole "race to the bottom" argument. This is an example of a false recovery that undermines the middle class in America. We will never be able to return the middle class in America to the grand heights it enjoyed if we sacrifice the standard of living of the workers like this.
Thats the whole point. Yet people in SC will continue to hold to these policies like peasants in England held to that system.
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