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Old 06-29-2011, 07:43 PM
 
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Haha. You're comparing apples to cadillacs.

E-harmony is a for profit business that provides a service to the public. The Unites States has a law that such businesses cannot discriminate and deny service based on certain things - race, sex, religion, national origin.

Various state have similar laws except that they have added sexual orientation. New Jersey is one such state. E-harmony violated that law and hence was sued - just as gay.com, a gay dating for-profit business, would be sued if it didn't allow heterosexuals to use the site or a gay-owned grocery store that tired to enforce a no-Christian policy would be sued.

This has nothing to do with separation of church and state, religious marriages within churches, and allowing gay couples to contract civil marriages.

edit: Funny enough, the man who defended e-harmony in court is the same man who argued against prop 8 (for gay marriage) in California - former Republican soliceter general Ted Olsen.
I find it telling they didn't target Muslim dominated sites that forbid homosexuals.

Given the behavior of the homosexuals, I don't trust any "exemption" for churches to last long.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:46 PM
 
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Irrelevant when the issue is whether or not homosexuals are trying to impose their beliefs on others.
Name one belief that homosexuals are trying to impose on you. Could it be...

They are equal to you?
They should have all the rights you do?
Their sexuality is normal for them?

Actually, I couldn't come up with much more. As a gay person, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything other than what I wrote above and each of those beliefs are irrefutable. I don't see any of them as an imposition because they don't impact your life one bit.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:48 PM
 
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I find it telling they didn't target Muslim dominated sites that forbid homosexuals.

Given the behavior of the homosexuals, I don't trust any "exemption" for churches to last long.
If a Muslim-run for profit business that serves the public has a no gay policy (or a no Christian policy or a no Jew policy or a no Irish policy or a no Hispanic policy), then it should be sued.

If you know of one, please let me know.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:48 PM
 
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Name one belief that homosexuals are trying to impose on you. Could it be...

They are equal to you?
They should have all the rights you do?
Their sexuality is normal for them?

Actually, I couldn't come up with much more. As a gay person, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything other than what I wrote above and each of those beliefs are irrefutable. I don't see any of them as an imposition because they don't impact your life one bit.
They're trying to legislate and litigate acceptance of a perversion. A site doesn't want homosexual ads? Don't use it. A church doesn't want homosexuals? Don't use it either. But don't attempt to force acceptance.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:48 PM
 
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If you're defending this, you're as juvenile as the criminals who did it. Impersonating people, deliberately deceiving people, etc., is not acceptable. The Baptists never encouraged hate of homosexuals, merely rejection of what they view as sinful.
A convenient argument to hide behind when it's quite clear they really do hate homosexuals. If they didn't, they wouldn't have gone to such lengths to make their lives miserable or fighting to take away whatever rights they want to officially reclaim.

I would say the Baptists are guilty of impersonating a religion. If it really was a religion, it wouldn't be involved in politics, but, hey, they don't care! Morals? Ethics? Ha, they don't have any!
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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They're trying to legislate and litigate acceptance of a perversion. A site doesn't want homosexual ads? Don't use it. A church doesn't want homosexuals? Don't use it either. But don't attempt to force acceptance.
When did this become a "Repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964" thread?
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:53 PM
 
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And in response, Southern Baptists pulled a prank on gays by supporting laws taking away their civil rights, ridiculing and scorning them, and condemning them to an eternity burning it hell.

In the minds of a Neo Prog; Disagreement = Hate. Why are you so desperate for our approval? I do not care if you approve of my lifestyle.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:53 PM
 
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Irrelevant when the issue is whether or not homosexuals are trying to impose their beliefs on others.
No, it's very relevant. There are laws in many states that say you can't discriminate based on sexual orientation. E-Harmony was doing that, exactly. I don't think it was an important case, but the lawsuit was completely legitimate.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:55 PM
 
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In the minds of a Neo Prog; Disagreement = Hate. Why are you so desperate for our approval? I do not care if you approve of my lifestyle.
I don't want your approval. I just don't want you legislating away my civil rights. I may disapprove of your lifestyle (which I do), but I've never tried to pass a law banning you from contracting a civil marriage or serving in the military or being a school teacher, etc, etc, etc. That's when disapproval becomes hate.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:57 PM
 
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No, it's very relevant. There are laws in many states that say you can't discriminate based on sexual orientation. E-Harmony was doing that, exactly. I don't think it was an important case, but the lawsuit was completely legitimate.
You're really just proving my point. Homosexuals got laws passed forcing themselves on others.
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