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Old 07-09-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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With the explosion of CSI forensics, science, law, understanding of psychology, and statistics of probability, is it time for jurors to be a profession of educated people in those areas? Perhaps the jury could only review the court transcripts, testimony, and evidence without seeing or knowing who the defendant is. This would eliminate any bias, prejudice, or verdicts based on emotion.
In addition, jurors would be better equipped to critically analyze the evidence and take their job seriously.



in the case of OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony, the jury did not do its due diligence by taking the time to methodically go over the evidence and testimony as a group. Impossible to do in 4 or 10 hours respectively considering the amount of testimony and evidence.

The jury system is not working because the jurors often fail to put effort, time, or work into their job/role. In addition, many are simply not educated or intelligent enough to give the information necessary critical analysis.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:38 AM
 
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I've thought the same for years. It would certainly create some jobs.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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That is an interesting argument... I have a problem with "paying" someone to render a judgement because there will be a lot of special interests involved... corruption would even make the picture worse... so I guess, no....
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:43 AM
 
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With the explosion of CSI forensics, science, law, understanding of psychology, and statistics of probability, is it time for jurors to be a profession of educated people in those areas? Perhaps the jury could only review the court transcripts, testimony, and evidence without seeing or knowing who the defendant is. This would eliminate any bias, prejudice, or verdicts based on emotion.
In addition, jurors would be better equipped to critically analyze the evidence and take their job seriously.



in the case of OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony, the jury did not do its due diligence by taking the time to methodically go over the evidence and testimony as a group. Impossible to do in 4 or 10 hours respectively considering the amount of testimony and evidence.

The jury system is not working because the jurors often fail to put effort, time, or work into their job/role. In addition, many are simply not educated or intelligent enough to give the information necessary critical analysis.

Most educated and self employed people find ways to get out of jury duty. Thus the "jury of our peers" does not exist.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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That is an interesting argument... I have a problem with "paying" someone to render a judgement because there will be a lot of special interests involved... corruption would even make the picture worse... so I guess, no....
This could be said or done for the jurors of our system now. If one has invested work into an education and being a juror is a source of livelihood, they would be less apt to blow their career for a bribe.

In addition, if the jury only read/heard the court transcripts they could much more easily remain anonymous to involved parties.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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Most educated and self employed people find ways to get out of jury duty. Thus the "jury of our peers" does not exist.
Very true. I know a few high level professionals who simply cannot leave their work for a few weeks. Therefore, they do everything that is possible to get out of jury duty. Often, those who are left are (not the brightest bulb in the room).
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:49 AM
 
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This could be said or done for the jurors of our system now. If one has invested work into an education and being a juror is a source of livelihood, they would be less apt to blow their career for a bribe.

In addition, if the jury only read/heard the court transcripts they could much more easily remain anonymous to involved parties.
You ever heard of politicians? Yeah... no thanks... you only need one for a mistrial... and a juror can come up with just about ANY reason to do what they do... no thanks...
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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Most educated and self employed people find ways to get out of jury duty. Thus the "jury of our peers" does not exist.
Very often the lawyers on both sides do not want them on a jury because it is much harder to manipulate them.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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With the explosion of CSI forensics, science, law, understanding of psychology, and statistics of probability, is it time for jurors to be a profession of educated people in those areas?
These same professionals have made a mockery of our justice system, they are bought and paid for on a daily basis to support whatever argument the lawyer wants and you want to make them the sole jurors?

You're going to have a relatively small pool of jurors most likely consisting of those that couldn't make it in the real world. Whats to prevent lawyer for picking those that conform to his case? You'd have massive amount of dead locked juries.

Thanks but no thanks, our current system isn't perfect but its better than what you are proposing.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Most educated and self employed people find ways to get out of jury duty. Thus the "jury of our peers" does not exist.
Exactly. My 'peers' would have at least 12 years of post-high school education, speak five languages, have visited a third of the countries in the world...

Not. Bloody. Likely...
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