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Old 07-14-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Q: What is a millionaire called after he pays his taxes?

A: A millionaire.

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Old 07-14-2011, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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"Warfare" implies that the combatants are on somewhat equal ground. There is no equal ground here.

Countdown to you being attacked for being jealous or bitter, and the wealthy being referred to as "job creators"
Actually, there's asymmetric warfare:

Asymmetric warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Q: What is a millionaire called after he pays his taxes?

A: A millionaire.

that's why we shouldnt tax INCOME

look at warren buffet (a BILLIONAIRE)..his income is only 100k....


but if we taxed SPENDING..he spends over 50 million a year
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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What could possibly account for such gross distortions? Are the super-wealthy really that much smarter and productive than the rest of us? Are the organic veggies and hormone-free meat that affluent parents feed their children paying off?
Or could it be something else?


I'm gonna go with: It's something else.....

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Read more: Opinion: What class warfare really looks like - Dee Dee Myers - POLITICO.com
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We do not have a class system in the United States, so this whole discussion is a waste of time. In the US, a person can be born poor, and end up a multi-millionaire. That same person can be back in the middle class a few years later, and increase their wealth back into the millions a few years later. The wealth in this country is fluid, and moving all the time, we do not have a class system. Only in the minds of Marxists do we live in a class system.
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:00 AM
 
Location: South Carolina - The Palmetto State
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The GOP wants to cut spending on Medicare/Medicaid and SS so that billionaires can keep their tax breaks.
You mean people like Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Michael Moore, Jeffrey Immelt?????

If they are soooooooo concerned with the serfs .... um...I mean "people", they certainly could open their vast wallets and help out. "Course that would mean living their ideology......

My God Nooooooooooo!!!!!!

I didn't realize when slavery is sanctioned by government (and the "proper" people running it) - everything is sunshine and rainbows.


Socialism is for the people .....NOT the Socialists!
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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People! All you are doing is bickering over stupid stuff broken down over party lines. It has ALWAYS been them (the super rich) vs everyone else! The politicians on both sides are pawns for the different factions of the rich (lawyers vs doctors for an example. If any of you doubt what I'm saying check out
  1. [SIZE=3]Inside Job - Movie Website for the Documentary Film[/SIZE]


and you will see that coruption does not start or end with the republicans/democrats it is non-stop and we the people are too busy arguing over stupid stuff like race, religion, gay marriage, american idoless and hosuewives of I don't give damn! Meanwhile the powerful elite are destroying this country as well as others (see Iceland) After you see the video can someone please explain to me why the republicans think Reagan was so great and the democrats did not realize Clinton was a crook? Oh and one more thing WHY I THE HELL DID'NT SOMEONE STOP THESE GREEDY AZZ BANKERS IN THE FIRST PLACE! Also why are people defending the very same people that are killinig this country?
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Wow, I learn something new every day! If I understand what you're saying, the only way "The Middle Class" and "The Poor" can get ahead is with aid from the federal government.

I have always been under the (apparently mistaken) belief that hard work, education, hard work, persistance, hard work, a little luck and hard work were the keys to success.

I want to express my appreciation. Please let me know to which public-union-government-bureaucrat (or group of them) I should address my thank you card?
Becoming a millionaire will take all of that and then some but that is mere peanuts to the billionaires and yes, trillionaires that exist. Being a millioniare is something to strive for but it will (in the long run) mean very little. They will control how much you make just like the multi-millionaires control the fate of the poor and the middle class. Politicians, as I said before ONLY do things in their own best interest.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Ok your family is poor, they have been poor your entire life. You go public school, and get straight A's. You have a decent SAT score and you have been accepted to at a number of colleges both private and public. You are offered a limited number of scholarships but since you can't catch a football or throw a basketball you can't afford the tuition at any of these colleges. If you were lucky enough to get a job, you still couldn't afford it. You go to different banks and apply for loans to help pay for school, but since credit is so scarce, you have no employment history, etc. you can't get a loan. So what do you do? You can't get any federal aid or loans, because according to you this person is "depending on the federal government" even though this person worked hard, got good grades but just can't afford the tuition which increases every year. So..what's your solution?
You describe me almost exactly:

I was born into a lower-income family of 7. At age 8 my parents divorced so our economic status fell even further. My mother worked 2 jobs and went to school at night. I got B's and C's in high school. I went to a state university and go $0 financial aid. (My mother felt it was "none of their damn business" and refused to complete the financial aid forms.) I worked full-time and took out student loans. I graduated with a 2.6 GPA. I married at 24 and had 2 kids by 28. I was 35-years-old when I made my last student loan payment. That year I made over $120,000 and paid more in taxes than the median US household income. Today both my kids are in college and they get no financial aid because "our household income is too high."

The lesson here, is I didn't rely on government to "give me an opportunity." I made my opportunities. I worked my ass off.

Don't follow my example if you don't want to, but don't expect government (which means ME) to foot the bill for your opportunities.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Maine
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The increase in federal subsidizing of tuition is what has contributed to college tuition inflation.
B-I-N-G-O !!

Government involvement - by defenition - decreases quality and drives up prices.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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The GOP wants to cut spending on Medicare/Medicaid and SS so that billionaires can keep their tax breaks.
Here we go again!

earning profit is not only legal, but constitutional.

There is no limit to the amount of wealth which one can accumulate.

SS, medicare and medicaid are not constitutional.

America was founded on capitalistic ideals.

Don't like it, leave.
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